DISC light bug, AR check after start?

[Bog9y]

Hi,this is not a big issue/bug but just one i think could easily be coded to be correct.

 

The F16 manual says:

 

Ground Operations. During normal after-start checks, check the AR system. Move the AR

switch to the OPEN position and check the AR status lights for a blue RDY light on and the DISC

light off. Depress the AR/nose wheel steering (NWS) DISC on the stick and check that the amber DISC light is on. Three seconds later, the RDY light should come back on and the DISC light should go out. Move the AR switch to CLOSE and check that the RDY light extinguishes. The crew chief will confirm operation of the AR door and slipway lights. Confirm that the slipway lights are also turned up to illuminate the refueling receptacle.

 

 

AND FROM DASH 1:

 

 

NWS Light

 

The NWS light, the center element of the AR/NWS

status indicator located on the top of the glareshield,

illuminates green when NWS is engaged. NWS does

not operate even though the NWS light is illuminated

when the NWS FAIL caution light is on or when

system B hydraulic pressure is unavailable. On the

ground, NWS continues to operate with the AIR

REFUEL switch in OPEN even though the NWS light

is off.

 

 

*27. AR system (if required) - Check.

AIR REFUEL switch - OPEN, RDY light on,

DISC light off.

NOTE

If both the RDY and DISC lights are on,

then one or more relays are failed. This

condition must be corrected prior to

AR.

D A/R DISC button - Depressed. DISC light

on, RDY light off; 3 seconds later, RDY light

on, DISC light off.

 

 

In DCS when you press the nws/disc switch on the ground with AR switch to open the NWS comes on but you don't get the DISC light.

 

Like I said, no biggie but would be nice to have it correct.

 

Thanks!

[mkiii]

Confirmed that the DISC light does not come on, but the NWS light does, which, I saw in another thread, was causing a bit of confusion.

 

Looking at the HAF F-16C/D Dash-1. and the "D" part you see in section 27 refers to the F-16D model, not the C. See page iv at the front of the book for reference (C, D, DF = D Front & DR = D Rear). So it seems that this is correct at the moment, at least this part " RDY light on, DSC light off".

 

To be fair, the Procedures pages in the DCS manual for startup etc are pretty barebones at the moment. Just enough to get you going. I would assume that they will get more complete as more systems are actually modelled in the sim. They don't even mention making sure chocks are in before starting, or to turn on the Hud with the ICP Intensity Knob for example.

 

When you say "The F16 Manual says...", which manual & what page number? The DCS Manual has no section covering Ground Procedures for this that I can see.

Edited April 18, 2020 by mkiii

[Bog9y]

Confirmed that the DISC light does not come on, but the NWS light does, which, I saw in another thread, was causing a bit of confusion.

 

Looking at the HAF F-16C/D Dash-1. and the "D" part you see in section 27 refers to the F-16D model, not the C. See page iv at the front of the book for reference (C, D, DF = D Front & DR = D Rear). So it seems that this is correct at the moment, at least this part " RDY light on, DSC light off".

 

To be fair, the Procedures pages in the DCS manual for startup etc are pretty barebones at the moment. Just enough to get you going. I would assume that they will get more complete as more systems are actually modelled in the sim. They don't even mention making sure chocks are in before starting, or to turn on the Hud with the ICP Intensity Knob for example.

 

When you say "The F16 Manual says...", which manual & what page number? The DCS Manual has no section covering Ground Procedures for this that I can see.

 

You are correct. I was referring to the HAF manual and yes I just saw that this was for the D model.

 

The other manual I read was the Basic Employment manual, chapter Refuelling Ground Operations:

 

6.3. Ground Operations. During normal after-start checks, check the AR system. Move the AR

switch to the OPEN position and check the AR status lights for a blue RDY light on and the DISC

light off. Depress the AR/NWS DISC on the side stick and check that the amber DISC light is on.

Three seconds later, the RDY light should come back on and the DISC light should go out. Move

the AR switch to CLOSE and check that the RDY light extinguishes. The crew chief will confirm

operation of the AR door and slipway lights. Confirm that the slipway lights are also turned up to illuminate the refueling receptacle (Figure 6.1., Cockpit Switches). CAUTION: On the ground,

depressing the AR/NWS button cycles the NWS. After closing the AR switch, check NWS light on

prior to taxiing.

 

 

So it DOES cycle the NWS. I did not realise that. I thought that if the refuel door was open on the ground that the indicator would refer to the AR system not NSW.

 

All in all it's not a big deal at all. I would much rather have more functions available on the DED/ICP than this light. :thumbup:

[mkiii]

Yes. Since being weaned off "the other f-16 sim" ;) at least for a little while - I have discovered a bunch of new stuff - mainly while finding out odd little things like this. There are some strange things that must have a reason for being in there... but who knows why?