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How do you guys calculate it?

I reaaaallly rule of thumb it. And still cant refuel. Lmao.

But yeah. I know 476th has some app. But i dont feel like registerj g.

Question 1

How do u change bingo setting on f14 fuel gauges

Question 2 how do you guys figure out roughly how much fuel you need?

See right now im at 28k flying a lityle slower than I want level.

I just increased to what should be acceptable - 5k lbs a hr.

Of course i need to figure AB after take off, possible combat and other stuff.

So tips?

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John Chesire a F4 Nam vet and one of the first F14 pilots mentionedthat in the USN they had a climbing profile as well.

I forget the name. Basically they climb to an altitude level out gain speed climb again. It was a math figured way to gain altitude as fast as possible without just full ab amd up.

Anyone know what a profile for this would look like in F1

Eg 10k level off get to mach .6 climb.to 25k level off whatecer. As is once on course I set autopilot and a 5 orn10 degree climb around 90% rpm until 25 to 35 k. Then I put her in a cery shallow dive. Like maybe 20 min Ill hit 20k feet. And I noticed I can keepnher around 450 knots grnd speed at 85% rpm or 2.5k lbs per hr at rhat altitude which saves me a lot of gas..

Other ideas?

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Optimum climb for the Tomcat is approx. 0.7 mach at full MIL power. Fastest climb is 0.9 mach at full AB. What you described above really makes no sense from an aerodynamical point of view.

For bingo, you will need about 1500lbs for a 100nm home trip and 2000lbs for 150nm.That is if you cruise at the an optimum altitude of about 35k feet @0.7 mach and start your descend at about 60nm left with 200kts IAS.

These are rough numbers and will vary significantly with weight and drag index (more weight/drag > more fuel required)

The exact numbers can be found in the real jets performance manual if you can get a hold of it (or the pocket checklist which has a handy bingo table)

i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD

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Im serious a navy F4 vet bonafide proven told me they followed the

"RUTKOWSKI CLIMBING PROFILE" but that theyd climb, gain speed, climb more, gain speed, and attain altitude.

Im not a total moron yes I know full AB nose up is fastest climb

 

Im talking about IRL or close to it how do navy fighters climb ans how fast do they try to on a normal mission?

Jeesh I feel like diggkng and getting you a screenshot. Maybe I mis described it but otherwise if it doesnt make sense tell that to the giy with 2 F4 combat tours over Nam, Top Gun grad, and flew the 2nd operational cruise of F14s.

John Chesire. Hes all over quora.

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Optimum climb for the Tomcat is approx. 0.7 mach at full MIL power. Fastest climb is 0.9 mach at full AB. What you described above really makes no sense from an aerodynamical point of view.

For bingo, you will need about 1500lbs for a 100nm home trip and 2000lbs for 150nm.That is if you cruise at the an optimum altitude of about 35k feet @0.7 mach and start your descend at about 60nm left with 200kts IAS.

These are rough numbers and will vary significantly with weight and drag index (more weight/drag > more fuel required)

The exact numbers can be found in the real jets performance manual if you can get a hold of it (or the pocket checklist which has a handy bingo table)

 

Whys the bingo always set at 4k in the pit? Is this changeable? I thought 4k sounded high too. Ai goes bingo really fast too.

Im tellin ya though man that climbing profile is a real thing

It sounds like the best advice is to always take full fuel and drop tanks because you can dump fuel and never know what may happen then eh?

Next drop tanks. I almost mever drop them even in dogfights. Are they supposed to be jettisoned during dogfights? My cat handles fine with em?

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Whys the bingo always set at 4k in the pit? Is this changeable?

There is a knob you can turn right next to the bingo window to set any bingo value you want.

i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD

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Full AB, accelerate to .9 IMN, climb to ~37000, unload to .5 G to 1.2 IMN (or slightly above, just out of Mach buffet), continue climb at that mach until at your desired Altitude, then unload again for whatever velocity you want in the end state.

 

Better have a tanker close by.

Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
 

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Lol ya no.

I cant even refuel in the damned turkey

Second of all i wanted something like a rutkowski climbing profile for the tomcat

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Well if you want to conserve fuel keep the jet at mach 0.7 during cruise/climb since that is the speed for optimum lift/drag ratio (more or less).

i5-8600k @4.9Ghz, 2080ti , 32GB@2666Mhz, 512GB SSD

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