MadTommy Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 EDIT: if you want the final working cleaned up version go to post #16, i've poted it there. This one is not bugged and i'm posting just to share.. if you want it. Problem with the map below appears to be a bug.. if you know differently..please let me know..thanks I'm sorry to come here just to post my problems... but if possible i'd love an experienced mission editor to look at this for me.. as i'm sure to someone who knows what thery are doing the problem could be very obvious. ;) This mission works.. as in you can fly it.. but it was very much WIP http://www.mediafire.com/?4i9cpydzlnw (working) I made some changes that has screwed the mission.. and i cant see what is wrong. This mission below is the same as above but with some extra changes.. but now its fooked. You cant see the US side or fly as US, which is the intention. It has me totally miffed. http://www.mediafire.com/?9m111ktcqeg (not working) Any help would be much apprciated. :cry::doh: i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
MadTommy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 I know the above is a lot to ask.. But can anyone tell me or guess at what makes a mission unplayable.. i.e when the mission starts; you start with an external view of an enemy AI plane. I have the plane i want to fly selected as 'player'. Are there any know bugs that may cause this in the editor? i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
Kuky Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 If you do have an aircraft that's set as flyable by "player" and when you start mission you get AI aircraft only, only possible reasons I think would be either your aircraft is set as GCI flight and there are no enemy aircraft near enough to trigger you spawning on runway or tarmac (depending how you set it) or your aircraft mission start time is after the mission start as in, if mission start is set for 12:00h and you set player aircraft to start at 12:05h you will get into cockpit only 5min after mission start. PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
MadTommy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 If you do have an aircraft that's set as flyable by "player" and when you start mission you get AI aircraft only, only possible reasons I think would be either your aircraft is set as GCI flight and there are no enemy aircraft near enough to trigger you spawning on runway or tarmac (depending how you set it) or your aircraft mission start time is after the mission start as in, if mission start is set for 12:00h and you set player aircraft to start at 12:05h you will get into cockpit only 5min after mission start. Thanks Kuky.. I think i've eleminated all these reasons.. player plane is A-10.. but i'll recheck the start times.. but i never changed the time in making my edits. The only change i made to the playable aircraft was waypoints. I'm really left scratching my head at this point. EDIT: yeah i checked all the times again.. mission start @19:00.. player A-10 set for Take Off from Parking @ 19:00, Task: Nothing. I really beginning to think its a bug.. I'm slowing re-doing all my edits and checking after each change.. and i havent had a problem yet. I just can't figure it out. :( i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
Kuky Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 I checked your mission... in it all A-10 aircraft are set as Client meaning they should be available for human players in multiplayer, but not offline single mission. 1 PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
MadTommy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 eh?..thanks man.. but i just checked again.. and one is set to 'player' Did you change it to player and see if you could fly?? Here is the Briefing page.. maybe something is fubared my end.. For me A-10a is player.. the rest Client. i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
Kuky Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Checked again (mission from first link) and none of the A-10'a are set as Player.... they are all Client (and so are F-15's) PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
MadTommy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 Checked again (mission from first link) and none of the A-10'a are set as Player.... they are all Client (and so are F-15's) oh mate.. sorry for the confusion..(i've clearly marked them, opps) the mission from 1st link works, Its the 2nd link that has the non working mission.. :noexpression: It was the changes from the 1st to the 2nd when it went messed up. (hehe.. "You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kuky again"... i tried anyway :)) i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
Kuky Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Alright, I figured I should maybe try the second link... and yeah, like you said it doesn't work on my end either. The first A-10 is set as player and it won't work... I tried setting all other aircraft that were set as Client to AI, and left 1 A-10 as Player, again it didn't work... I don't know why either... PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Kuky Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 What version of lockon do you have? If I edit the mission from first link and set 1x A-10 as player, it works fine... second doesn't... PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
MadTommy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 ^^ edit: LockOn 1.12 with Flaming Cliffs.. with the Patch installed. Yeah same here..1st mission works fine... 2nd just wont go! This is the 2nd time this has happened to me.. and i've only tried to make a couple of missions.. luckly this time i saved changes ubder a new name.. my 1st mission i had to dump. Thanks a lot for looking. I thought a non newbie might go "Oh i see the problem!" Could it be a bug?.. as i only cleaned up the mission and added some new AI stuff. Once again, thanks a lot. i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
Kuky Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 Hm... I still can't see why it won't work... I tried something quickly and noticed if you have more then 1 flight to take off from the same base and your aircraft is in flight 6 (6th set of aircraft in sequence you placed in the map/mission) lockon will waait untill all first 5 flight are airborne then when it's your flight/aircaft turn it'll appear in mission. I started your mission again and this time fast forwarded for 1.5h in mission and still the player slot would not appear... sorry to say but I give up, I can't figure it out. Maybe it is just a buggy mission file? PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
MadTommy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 Hm... I still can't see why it won't work... I tried something quickly and noticed if you have more then 1 flight to take off from the same base and your aircraft is in flight 6 (6th set of aircraft in sequence you placed in the map/mission) lockon will waait untill all first 5 flight are airborne then when it's your flight/aircaft turn it'll appear in mission. I started your mission again and this time fast forwarded for 1.5h in mission and still the player slot would not appear... sorry to say but I give up, I can't figure it out. Maybe it is just a buggy mission file? lol no worries mate.. i thought you had it there for a min :smilewink: I saw your post b4 you edited... Thanks alot for trying.. and i'll bare in mind this thing about flight numbers etc.. i think i kind of understand what you are saying. i'm just gonna have to save lots of versions as i make changes until i'm confident this does not happen again. You deserve all the rep. you have :thumbup::thumbup: I'm gonna blame what's in your sig. :D i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
Aeroscout Posted January 18, 2008 Posted January 18, 2008 The A-10 will do this when creating your own missions. The exact same thing happened to me. My only suggestion is just to re-make the mission form scratch. (sorry) I know, it's kinda pointless to post this, but it does prove that this is a reoccurring bug. DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
MadTommy Posted January 18, 2008 Author Posted January 18, 2008 The A-10 will do this when creating your own missions. The exact same thing happened to me. My only suggestion is just to re-make the mission form scratch. (sorry) I know, it's kinda pointless to post this, but it does prove that this is a reoccurring bug. Not pointless at all... very good and important for me to know this. Thank you for posting. i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
MadTommy Posted January 19, 2008 Author Posted January 19, 2008 Thanks to anyone who tried to help me.. Here is my 1st draft of a final product, ;) ..as a wee present... its a multiplayer map.. of 6 A-10s and 4 F-15s I think its a fun map, set at dusk, mixed weather. It was designed for a group of friends to play together.. between 4 - 10 people. It can be played as single player but you had better be a half decent flyer.. but i've enjoyed failing as an A-10 pilot in testing :) http://www.mediafire.com/?69jiz7yxj3k View the mission Briefing.. for Mission Goals. Dont trust the autopilot through the high mountains. Multiple waves of enemy air attack and ground attack jets. Mid-air refuelling should be possible..i hope it's set up right now. (just in there for fun & training) All emeny are hidden except Mission Targets.. (TV tower & convoy) IMPORTANT: The map is set for multiplay.. i.e all planes are set to 'client' It will be a bitch of a map on Single Player...it is for me as a newbie at least. Please give me feedback... if you play it. :pilotfly: i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4
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