Challenge Campaign Impossible Missions?

[nosaMtrevoC]

Not sure whether to praise or rant this campaign.

 

I did have a lot of fun so far, and I've gained a ton of experience, especially bombing and strafing.

 

So many buggy parts of this campaign though.

 

Fly under the bridges?... second bridge has obviously been bugged by scenery at one point... Fly past it and come at it from behind to avoid the trees to complete this one.

 

The shoot down two helicopter campaign... I turned on unlimited ammo to see if it was even possible to shoot it down. Turns out it's not (after a cerain point even though it's still flying). Pumped thousands of rounds into it according to tacview and just lots of fire on the heli but it won't go down... Found out you need to get to them really quickly and they go down.

 

So far pretty challenging, but save the two helicopters, not too frustrating. I don't mind a challenge, in fact that's kind of why I like DCS.

 

Then the bombing campaigns (Mission 18 & 19)

 

I must have flown Mission 18 30 times before finaly switching to unlimited ammo to finish off the last truck

 

Checked Youtube, and a few people have Challenge Campaign Video series up, but all stopped before Mission 18.

 

I had bombing runs perfectly center spread between the group of trucks and one truck always survived.

 

Clipped together some of the replays that weren't bugged (I digress, but some of my best replay's in this mission and others don't work at all, or are wildly different than what I did). Some of my best bombing runs show me diving into the ground before the target even though I was diving at the target and pulled up with plenty of altitude. Not sure what this is about.

 

Now I'm stuck on the shoot down two AI P-51D's. Mission 23, sigh. Not sure I'll ever get past that one which is a shame. So close. I've moved on to the Blue Nosed Bastards for now.

 

It seems like the AI planes can take a beating without effecting their performance or flight charachteristics at all. The most bullets on target I've given any one of them so far is about 60, which I know isn't huge, but if I take 4 hits I can't fly anymore, smoke coming out, cockpit damaged... ?

 

Anyways, to conclude, I loved my time with the challenge campaign, but I think it needs just a little finesse and some re-work. Although granted, The "Challenge Campaign", it holds true to it's name. I shouldn't however have to use unlimited ammo to get past some points.

 

Here's some clips of my attempts at Mission 18 & 19 in 2k

 

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[ASpiderfromMars]

I came here stuck at mission 23. With the same frustration. This "campaign" starts of very good. Challenges makes sense. There are not easy and actually helps you learn alot.

But then towards the end with the weapons challenges it suddenly becomes ridicoulos difficult. Trolling like task that seems impossible to do. I dont for a second believe anybody did this campaign without "cheating" in the end. 

And then all you gained and the satisfaction of completing is gone.  

For now will take a pause from this campaign. Not sure if I will progress any further than 22 missions

 

[grafspee]

Splash damage from bombs is very limited in dcs. Your hits were very accurate all trucks should be knock out. 

Second thing which i don't like very much is destruction algorytm. Why destroying a vehicle must end up with explosion and fire ?

That bombs IRL probably would not set this trucks on fire, shrapnel and pressure wave would make this trucks not operational, this does not mean that those trucks cant be repaired, but some how in DCS you have to totally wreck your target to trigger destruction. For me single bullet through the engine should trigger truck destruction , but some how in DCS you have to beat the shit out of this truck to score the kill.

[Colonel Akir Nakesh]

I'm not a mind-reader but I *think* there may be a missing trigger that explodes the fuel truck like the previous bombing and both undefended and ZU-23 defended static strafing and rocket attack missions. Like the previous missions, the fuel truck is in its own group called EXP1.

I edited the mission to set it to explode like the other missions... here it is if anyone is interested. Drop it into \DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\P-51D\Missions\Campaigns

Mission 18 - Bombs with More Difficulty.miz