Apache dimensions

[Vekkinho]

Hi all,

 

I just saw new screenshots and noticed something odd.

 

That Longbow Apache seems a bit too big compared to Kiowa in front and Blackhawk behind it! Don't you think?! Take a look here:

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/img/products/large/787a9319f724f17546d26ffee769e87e.jpg

[VMFA117_Poko]

Hmmm... I don't think so. Look at dimmensions of Kiowa and Apache crew men.

[Vekkinho]

Yeah, but crewman model is all the same for each USFOR helo...I'm talking of Apache 3D model dimensions (height, lenght, rotor diameter)

 

Look here:

 

UH-60:

Crew: Minimum 2 pilots

Capacity: 2,645 lb of cargo internally, including 14 troops or 6 stretchers, or 8,000 lb (UH-60A) or 9,000 lb (UH-60L) of cargo externally

Length: 64 ft 10 in (19.76 m)

Rotor diameter: 53 ft 8 in (16.36 m)

Height: 16 ft 10 in (5.13 m)

Disc area: 2,260 ftІ (210 mІ)

Empty weight: 10,624 lb (4,819 kg)

Loaded weight: 16,260 lb (7,375 kg)

Max takeoff weight: 24,500 lb (11,113 kg)

Powerplant: 2Ч General Electric T700-GE-701 free-turbine turboshafts, 1,560 hp (1,160 kW) each

 

AH-64D:

Crew: 2: pilot, CPG (co-pilot/gunner)

Length: 58.17 ft (17.73 m) (with both rotors turning)

Rotor diameter: 48 ft 0 in (14.63 m)

Height: 12.7 ft (3.87 m)

Disc area: 1,809.5 ftІ (168.11 mІ)

Empty weight: 11,387 lb (5,165 kg)

Loaded weight: 18,000 lb (8,000 kg)

Max takeoff weight: 21,000 lb (9,500 kg)

Powerplant: 2Ч General Electric T700-GE-701 and later upgraded to T700-GE-701C (1990-today) turboshafts, -701: 1,690 shp, -701C: 1,890 shp (-701: 1,260 kW, -701C: 1,490 kW) each

Fuselage length: 49 ft 5 in (15.06 m)

Rotor systems: 4 blade main rotor, 4 blade tail rotor in non-orthogonal alignment

[Vekkinho]

Kiowa might be small but Ka-50 ain't that big next to it.

 

I was at Maks 2007 and I stood next to Ka-50 and I could see the instruments inside the cockpit with no problem. I'm 180cm of height.

 

From this screenshot it seems I could look over the Kiowa or at least kneel to avoid spinning rotors while boarding.

[Vekkinho]

Now, the tallest part of the Blackhawk would be it's tail rotor propeller (16 ft 10 in (5.13 m)).

 

The tallest part of the Longbow is FCR radome (12.7 ft (3.87 m).

 

But I see no 1.26m difference from that screenshot.

 

It might be because of the angle at which screenshot was taken, but still...

[mvsgas]

I don't know man, maybe is the angle of the snapshot. Look at the photo label; "Fort Campbell" http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.wiregrassskysoldiers.org/images/2004/JUN04_47.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wiregrassskysoldiers.org/2004pics.html&h=960&w=1280&sz=161&hl=en&start=65&um=1&tbnid=qaRKO5Ne4HGRsM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DFort%2BCampbell%2Bhelicopter%2B%26start%3D54%26ndsp%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

 

They cobras are the same hight as the huyes (I think , right?) but they look taller, maybe that is the reason. Maybe it is testimony of the great graphics of BS. I don't know.

 

P.S.

Maybe they don't add the mast radar to the height measurements, just wandering, I don't have any prove. The F-16 blk 30 does not look that different from a blk 40 until you park them next to each other. My point is it might just look different but maybe it might not be that far off.

[HungaroJET]

Hi all,

 

I just saw new screenshots and noticed something odd.

 

That Longbow Apache seems a bit too big compared to Kiowa in front and Blackhawk behind it! Don't you think?! Take a look here:

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/img/products/large/787a9319f724f17546d26ffee769e87e.jpg

 

 

Yep...I saw & wrote that...no reply from ED

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=424831#post424831

[Vekkinho]

@mvsgas:

 

Huey and Cobra are very similar choppers i.e. Cobra was developed from Huey so in that pic you've posted you'll notice difference in fuselage shape but they share same tail and rotors are of same height.

 

But there's a small Cayuse there. Cayuse is smaller than Kiowa, right?! Now compare Cayuse with Cobra in that photo and Kiowa with Cobra in ED screenshot.

 

And there's no big visual or size difference betrween BLK30 and 40 in Viper shape. Only big mouth/small mouth intakes.

[Avimimus]

You can see why some of us want a Kiowa or two... small scale insertions, liason, spotting, recon, escort duty, even coin (with seven round pods and a fifty cal).

[mvsgas]

@mvsgas:

And there's no big visual or size difference betrween BLK30 and 40 in Viper shape. Only big mouth/small mouth intakes.

 

I don't know anything about the helicopters, so maybe your right and hopefully ED fixes the issue. But the F-16 I know like the back of my hand, I have work on them for 8 years. The Blk 30,25 (and all previous blks) are shorter than blk40 and above. They have smaller landing gear among other thing. I don't mean to derail, just saying, some time a vehicle (aircraft , or whatever) may look the same from individual photos but when you park them together, that's when you see some of the differences and maybe that is the case in that screen.

[Vekkinho]

But the F-16 I know like the back of my hand, I have work on them for 8 years. The Blk 30,25 (and all previous blks) are shorter than blk40 and above. They have smaller landing gear among other thing. I don't mean to derail, just saying, some time a vehicle (aircraft , or whatever) may look the same from individual photos but when you park them together, that's when you see some of the differences and maybe that is the case in that screen.

 

I did not know those facts on F-16. Thanks for the info. I'll send you a PM with some questions on Viper soon!

[mvsgas]

Anytime, but remember, I'm just a mechanic. I don't know anything interesting. Just the mechanical side, I don't know anything about flying it or how to employ its weapons systems. Only in the computer (Falcon series of game) can I do that.