X52 Pro - getting close

[HavokFlight]

First - Konkussion - THANKS !!!

 

Your page really answered a lot of my questions.

 

I also went to the Saitek page and discovered that with the new software there is NO way to print the settings for our joystick. It also sounds like the beta version (newer) fixes a few of the odd problems, but it requires you to redo all the settings. So I think I will wait to get the new release.

 

I have a minor ... okay major ... problem. At the moment I have no working point of view hat. I can program my 3 POV hats as 4 and or 8 button buttons, but i can't figure out how to assign POV1 as a view POV.

 

Any help out there, I really want to be able to look out the canopy without taking my hands off the stick and grabbing my mouse. (I am still using my mouse look sinse I have no POV hat).

 

THANKS guys.

[S77th-konkussion]

You're Welcome. Sorry if my advice has not been current enough for the newer saiteks. I have the old stuff. Shame they mucked around with it and removed features..

 

Regarding the view-You may or may not like my suggestion- but here it is anywho.

 

 

 

If this is not an option- hmm... try REALLY hard to make it a option. If you are FORCED to endure the torture of using the HAT.. Are you saying that if you click on that HAT in the SST profiler- you cannot assign view keys to the different positions? Seems to me that there should be at least 4 if not 8 directional boxes that you can assign the keys to.

 

What happens if you right click on the HAT after highlighting it? Do you get a list of special modes, or the ability to select commands.. anything?

[S77th-konkussion]

If none of this is making sense- try this.

 

Open your SST- highlight or select the HAT in question- make sure it's the active "button" that you want to profile. Take a screenshot and post it here.

 

I'd like to see what the command "boxes" or whatever you have there look like. Sounds like SST has changed a fair bit- but I wonder if I couldn't stumble through it with a screenshot.

[Aeroscout]

Right click in the box and select 4 way or 8 way, then assign the keys. I think this is what Konkussion means

 

And, I just want to second Konkussion's recommendation of Track IR. It's an awesome device, and he just gave you a $20 discount. It's well worth the $160. There's nothing more natural than using your head to look around.

[urze]

Right click in the box and select 4 way or 8 way, then assign the keys. I think this is what Konkussion means

 

And, I just want to second Konkussion's recommendation of Track IR. It's an awesome device, and he just gave you a $20 discount. It's well worth the $160. There's nothing more natural than using your head to look around.

 

...or use FreeTrack: http://www.free-track.net/ (freeware!)

[RedTiger]

If you can set you hats to 4 or 8 way switches, you're about 50% towards using them for POV. Just look in the Lockon documentation to find what keys move the view around and then assign those to the hat you want to use for POV.

 

And yes, TrackIR is far superior to a Hat switch. You won't be let down if you buy one.

[HavokFlight]

Just a quick mention, I intend to add a TRACK IR but .... I have to add a set of rudder pedals first. So i am going to have to suffer through the POV first. When I get home I will check my setting as suggested and take a screen shot. Talk shortly.

 

Thanks Konkussion and RedTiger.

[S77th-konkussion]

I'm sure you understand your own circumstances better than I do- but in MOST cases I would get the Track first. I love having pedals- but I had a track IR even before I got my first HOTAS.

[RedTiger]

I'm sure you understand your own circumstances better than I do- but in MOST cases I would get the Track first. I love having pedals- but I had a track IR even before I got my first HOTAS.

 

Ditto on this about a zillion times. Unless you're a hardcore helicopter nut (which you don't seem to be since you bought Lockon), TrackIR will serve you much better. Your stick has a twist rudder. If someone made me choose between a twist rudder and TrackIR vs. pedals and a hat switch, there'd be no contest there, TrackIR all the way. Can't fly without it! :pilotfly:

[Brit_Radar_Dude]

Take heed of what Konny said about TrackIR - he has been around "forever" and knows his stuff. Getting a TrackIR first before pedals seems to be the opinion of just about every post on the subject I have ever read on the various Lockon Forums.

[Highwayman-Ed]

TIR first! :)

[HavokFlight]

I just got my Saitek set and expended this months loose change (lol) so I have to wait a bit. Had I really given it much thought I would have seen the need for the Track IR first. I used to hagve a hotas and rudder set, then I stopped flying and got rid of all my gear. Track IR is a newer product and I didn't even consider it's need ... you guys are certainly right ... :doh:

 

I have to run out for a training class ... I will get back to figuring this minor problem out this afternoon ... with your help ... thanks guys.

[HavokFlight]

Okay, I did as asked. Hopefully i have attached a RAR of the window with the POV line selected and also it displayed as an 8 way button choice. I know I can assign it as an 8-way but that limits me to just 8 pre-programmed views.

 

When I click on the line, and right click on POV 1 ... I get a small windown with five choices

 

* POV

Buttons

Mouse (grey'd out)

_____________

4 Way

8 Way

POV-pics.zip

[S77th-konkussion]

Okay, I did as asked. Hopefully i have attached a RAR of the window with the POV line selected and also it displayed as an 8 way button choice. I know I can assign it as an 8-way but that limits me to just 8 pre-programmed views.

 

When I click on the line, and right click on POV 1 ... I get a small windown with five choices

 

* POV

Buttons

Mouse (grey'd out)

_____________

4 Way

8 Way

 

No you should be able to assign it to the number pad "head" erm.. movers. The numbers represent the direction the head would move. so on your HAT: (select 8 way I guess...)

 

up: num pad 8

up/right: num pad 9

right: num pad 6

and so on...

 

You may or may not want a "centering" key. Is your pinky thing there a "shift" input (like pressing the shift key) or have you set it up to enter a whole new command? If it's a shift input- it might be easier to just press the "5" key on the number pad to restore the default view if needed. Seems like you could simply pan the HAT back just as easily.

 

Not to beat this horse to the center of the earth- but imagine being able to do all this simply by moving your head naturally- without really even thinking about it. Worst case is that you have to map a zoom in/out to the stick -if -(as I have heard) you didn't like the zoom axis tracking built into the track IR

 

 

AND- all the other items you could take off the keyboard and assign to that HAT instead.

[Aeroscout]

Before I had my TrackIR, I used the mouse mini stick on my X52 for my head. All you have to do is edit the config/view/view.lua file.

 

Where it says: CockpitMouse = false. Change it to CockpitMouse = true

 

Now you can use that mini stick as your head. It worked well for me... until i got Track IR, which ins an infinitely better solution.

[S77th-konkussion]

Yep- I think I used the mini stick alone- TDC

shift/ ministick- radar scan cone

[HavokFlight]

You two guys are great. Oddly enough today I got the mini-stick working as well ... and my wife told me my budget will support getting a Track-IR a lot sooner than I thought ... lol.

 

So I can suffer along till it comes in the mail. Please tell me programming it is easier than this stick and rudder was ? lol. :music_whistling: