How to properly set brakes with rudder pedals?

[Darcaem]

Hi. I've been flying for a couple of years now, and I have learn using a T16000 and TWS hotas, so I'm now used to using the little paddles on the TWS as rudder axis, and either a button on a slider on the stick as brakes.

 

Now I've just bought a Saitek rudder pedals and I feel like learning from 0 again (not that I was a specially good pilot either). My main problem is with the wheel brakes. I "brake" using my toes on the pedals, but each pedal has a unique axis, so I usually end up braking more with one wheel than the other, so, either dead or out of one side of the runway. On slow speeds or taking off I have no problems, but landing seems harder for me than just pressing a button or an analog slider for both brakes at the same time. If I apply full force to the brakes, it works... but for example with WWII planes that is not an option, I need to control how much force is applied to the brakes, and I need to apply the same force to both brakes.

 

Is this normal? I mean, IRL are both brakes controller with different "axis", or is there any way to "fix" or "tie together" both brakes so that if you apply force on one pedal, the other one also reacts in the same manner. In DCS I've tried:

1.- Set brake left and right to left and right pedal

2.- Set left and right pedal to the same action, Wheel brakes (both)

3.- Only set left pedal to the action Wheel brakes (both)

 

The third option is the one I'm using right now. But since now I do have a proper-ish rudder pedals, I would like to learn how to use them properly :P I'm assuming it is just me not been able to apply the same force with both legs at the same time, and that I will learn eventually? :megalol:

[Sokol1_br]

2.- Set left and right pedal to the same action, Wheel brakes (both)

 

This option work for "cheater" Spitfire, MiG-15/21 "wheel brakes" - any pedal brake you press will brake both wheels, and moving rudder left/right one this side wheel ("differential brakes").

 

If P-51*, Fw 190... allow set an axis for "wheel brakes" (???) set a button as modifier in DCS control and set left/right pedal brake axes + this modifier button for "wheel brakes".

 

So with modifier button pressed, brake pedal axes (left or right) don't control left or right "toe brakes" but "wheels brake" in an proportional way, use for slow down after landings.

 

Without modifier button pressed, each "toe brakes" control a individual wheel, use for taxi curves.

 

* P-51 seems have this... "game cheater" :smilewink: option:

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Darcaem]

Thanks for the info and the suggestions!

 

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[SharpeXB]

Well of course that’s how they work IRL. If you think about it, having a mono axis on a real aircraft would be problematic. Unlike your car which is essentially stable with four wheels, an airplane is braking with only two of them and can twist out of line easily. Given that real world brakes wear differentially you couldn’t just use one pedal applied to both, it would impart a turn when braking. Especially in a tail dragger where the COG is behind the wheels. When taxiing you really aren’t supposed to use the brakes heavily, just as little as possible and when landing, let yourself roll to a stop. And never use the brakes on takeoff.

 

In the game, since your brakes magically wear evenly you can certainly get away with a single brake axis in the tricycle gear (modern) aircraft. The taildragger warbirds will always need R and L brakes.

[SharpeXB]

Actually Sharpe I have been successful in getting DCS warbirds to taxi and turn with only one button controlling both brakes and no differential braking. Of course they won't turn as tight and what not.

Sure but generally you would want R & L brakes for this type of aircraft. They are all a bit different.

Some of them have steerable tail wheels like the P-51D although it only can be used for gradual turns. The Spitfire’s tail wheel is free and steering requires differential braking but is controlled by a single lever in combination with the pedals. The 190D & 109K tail wheels are either locked or unlocked and turns require brakes.

 

The F-86 needs R and L brakes available if the nose wheel steering doesn’t engage, the plane needs to roll straight to engage it.

 

Actually how I have my toe brakes set up in DCS is one for zoom view, which is far more important than a few turns on the ground, then the other for a mono brake axis. For the warbirds I have R&L brake HOTAS buttons. In civy sims like X-Plane & MSFS I want to keep it real and don’t need a quick zoom view so I set up the actual R and L toe brakes.