Did something drastically change with redfor IR SAMS

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Hey,

not strictly A-10c related but i think the Hog-People would be the first to new if soemthing changed with IR SAMS.

 

After being away from DCS for some time, i feel that Strelas are way less susceptible to flares. I found that even a 2*4 at 0.25 seconds will not reliably fool a Strela even if i hit the CMS right after launch. I remember that even a 2*3 dump was enough to reliably fool a strela when timed well.

 

Also i feel that Iglas are way faster than before, but have trouble pulling Gs, so will often miss, because they can not pull enough lead, which is nice, because you can manually evade them with luck.

 

Can anyone confirm this? I have not seen anything in the patchnotes regarding SAMs.

Also i was wondering, if the reduced effectivnes of flares could have come with the new A-10c II and is maybe not intended? Not saying that it's wrong, the way that it is now.

 

thanks

[SJBMX]

Nope. I'm using the same custom flare profile that I have for the past 18 or so months (4 flares, 0.25 seconds interval, 2 cycles), and it was 15 for 16 against a SA-13 and 12 for 12 against a SA-9 with a single use in my testing after the most recent patch was released. I also didn't do a proper test with them, but I've also had no trouble avoiding Igla, R-60, R-73 and R-27ET with it, either. Haven't had any of the bluefor IR SAMs or AAMs fired at me yet, but really the only thing that it wasn't effective against 90+ percent of the time was the AIM-9X.

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Huh? Now, that thread got moved to the dcs main forum? Fair enough...

 

Nope. I'm using the same custom flare profile that I have for the past 18 or so months (4 flares, 0.25 seconds interval, 2 cycles), and it was 15 for 16 against a SA-13 and 12 for 12 against a SA-9 with a single use in my testing after the most recent patch was released. I also didn't do a proper test with them, but I've also had no trouble avoiding Igla, R-60, R-73 and R-27ET with it, either. Haven't had any of the bluefor IR SAMs or AAMs fired at me yet, but really the only thing that it wasn't effective against 90+ percent of the time was the AIM-9X.

Ok, thanks for the info. How you describe it, is basically how i remember it. I will fly some more and investigate further. Maybe i was just very, very unlucky in my last session.

 

Does anyone know, if DCS distinguishes between physical CM ports on the A-10C for effectivness? In my mission i had all ports loaded with flare (no chaff, all flare!!!), so not all flares got discharged from their intended ports, but from the chaff ports - which in reality should be placed to aid with the effectivness of chaff, not flare.

 

Secondly is there any correlation between skill setting of launcher and missile tracking capability? I sure do hope not (!), but when i tested i had all SAMs set to "high" skill.