JG13Wulf Posted December 28, 2020 Posted December 28, 2020 (edited) I hope to not have missed a post about this. But I can't find anything that tell the D30 should not have the M10 triple rocket launcher. All I have found is that earlier variant of P47(razorback) could carry them as well as later variant. And I found it was replaced later by HVAR that were more efficient (but still in use when US were short in HVAR). I don't know which exact version was the first to have carry HVAR and It's not the question here. But it seems logic to me that if previous and later variant could carry M10, then D30 should be able to carry them too. As I can't find more than my logical thought, I'm maybe wrong. If it's missing, can it be added to both D30 and D30 early ? If it's normal to not have them, do anyone have an explanation ? Here are few picture with P47 and other plane that use it. Edited December 28, 2020 by JG13Wulf 1
Nealius Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 +1 The whole D40/D30/D30 Early modeling we have in game makes zero sense to me. They should all be capable of carrying bombs and rockets, and I have not been able to discern a practical difference between the D40 and D30 (other than the DCS-imposed fictional restriction on bombs vs. rockets), so why do we even have the two versions?
Scoll Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Thank you very much Nealius for your clear and documented reply on the topic questions ! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
JG13Wulf Posted December 31, 2020 Author Posted December 31, 2020 On 12/30/2020 at 6:14 AM, Nealius said: +1 The whole D40/D30/D30 Early modeling we have in game makes zero sense to me. They should all be capable of carrying bombs and rockets, and I have not been able to discern a practical difference between the D40 and D30 (other than the DCS-imposed fictional restriction on bombs vs. rockets), so why do we even have the two versions? Maybe a slight flight model difference. I don't know. Seems the D30 is a D30 early that get upgraded to D40. So it's hard to say. I tought the main difference would be the D40 to be the first to have Hvar as standard armament making the D30 a variant that could carry only M10 when D40 could carry both. But it seems that some people had informations about D30 using Hvar. So as I totally don't know for these, I let other discuss about. But about M10 it's surprising.
PL_Harpoon Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 Well, according to this site (https://p47tbolt.tripod.com/jugevolution.htm) there was almost no difference between the D-30-RA (with the dorsal fin) and D-40 variants. It appears to me that in order to fire rockets all you need is a single panel in the cockpit and a couple of wires to the wing pylons. These modifications could be done (and probably were done) by the ground crews. The problem in DCS is that it doesn't really allow for aircraft mods and that's probably the reason why we have 3 different variants.
Nealius Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 What's even more confusing on the DCS side of this is that there are no separate livery folders for the 30 early, 30 late, or 40, and it seems the 30 late and 40 share the exact same external model, as the EDM files only show a 30(early) and a "P47D."
JG13Wulf Posted January 22, 2021 Author Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) On 1/10/2021 at 2:22 PM, Nealius said: What's even more confusing on the DCS side of this is that there are no separate livery folders for the 30 early, 30 late, or 40, and it seems the 30 late and 40 share the exact same external model, as the EDM files only show a 30(early) and a "P47D." The D30 Late seems to be a D30 modified to be transformed as a D40. But the internal differ from the D40 (at least for the rocket ...). So that's why they probably share the same external model. It's not the first plane to have only 1 skin folder for 2 planes. The P51D25 and D30 have small differences. But they share the same folder. Edited January 22, 2021 by JG13Wulf
Nealius Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, JG13Wulf said: It's not the first plane to have only 1 skin folder for 2 planes. The P51D25 and D30 have small differences. But they share the same folder. That's also interesting, because one of those (D25 I think) consistently has missing textures issues in the cockpit. Uncorrected after many years....
JG13Wulf Posted January 22, 2021 Author Posted January 22, 2021 I don't have this problem since years. And everytime I got the missing texture bug, I only needed to repair.
Nealius Posted January 24, 2021 Posted January 24, 2021 I've had it across two computers, three harddrives, and six fresh installs.
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