F-14 INS alignment question

[PicklePicklePickle]

Hello,

 

Whenever I start a mission, the INS alignment through Jester works fine. However, if land again to rearm, after engine start it seems Jester starts INS alignment without me asking. Often, the alignment gets very close to the end and then gets stuck there. This seems to happen if I let Jester start the alignment automatically, or if I ask for the fine alignment via the menu. I am forced to select the 'INS NOW' option which breaks the hud for dropping bombs, among other things.

 

Is this a bug or am I missing some part of the real procedure here? When I land I always set the parking brake first, which I know can interrupt the INS alignment.

 

Thanks!

[Trol]

You can re-arm with the engines running FYI.  But if you need to shutdown for repair, first connect the ground power.  That will keep the INS spinning.

[QuiGon]

As @Trol said, there is no reason to perform a re-alignment of the INS to rearm the aircraft. Just leave the engines running or use ground power instead.

 

If you do have to re-align the INS for some reason or just want to do it anyway, then the RIO has to enter the new coordinates of your parking position. I'm pretty much exclusively flying the DCS Tomcat as a RIO myself, so I don't have any experience with Jester and if he does that correctly or not. Doing it yourself as a RIO works fine though.

[PicklePicklePickle]

Thanks for the replies...yes it is when I have to repair(i always catch some shrapnel  ) and shut down. I tried leaving the power and air on after seeing a mention of this being required in Chuck's guide, and the same problem occurs. The alignment gets to 64-66 and it stops. I can only get it to work by asking Jester to do the 'NOW' option which is mostly useless. Maybe it is because I landed at a different airfield than I took off from? Or maybe it is a bug.

[QuiGon]

23 hours ago, PicklePicklePickle said:

Thanks for the replies...yes it is when I have to repair(i always catch some shrapnel  ) and shut down. I tried leaving the power and air on after seeing a mention of this being required in Chuck's guide, and the same problem occurs. The alignment gets to 64-66 and it stops. I can only get it to work by asking Jester to do the 'NOW' option which is mostly useless. Maybe it is because I landed at a different airfield than I took off from? Or maybe it is a bug.

 

As I said, the RIO has to enter the new coordinates of your new parking position prior to alignment. Maybe Jester doesn't do that? I have no experience with Jester

[PicklePicklePickle]

Ok, that might be it. I believe I can see 'him' typing coordinates in the TID repeater, so maybe if I look at these I can tell if he is typing the same coordinates from the original INS alignment. Not sure how the INS alignment would know the parking location is wrong...if the coordinates are wrong I would just expect the INS alignment to be incorrect, not stall.

[QuiGon]

On 1/26/2021 at 8:32 PM, PicklePicklePickle said:

Ok, that might be it. I believe I can see 'him' typing coordinates in the TID repeater, so maybe if I look at these I can tell if he is typing the same coordinates from the original INS alignment. Not sure how the INS alignment would know the parking location is wrong...if the coordinates are wrong I would just expect the INS alignment to be incorrect, not stall.

 

Correct. I was thinking he might not even enter any coordinates...

Edited January 29, 2021 by QuiGon

[The_Tau]

Unfortunately in multiplayer when with Jester best way to realign after long sortie is to switch to another spawn slot...

[PicklePicklePickle]

Yes, I also have tested this in single player and it doesn't work either. Last time I tried it on the F-14 Free Flight Caucasus, and just landed at Novorossiysk. Powered down, rearmed then tried to the INS alignment, but stuck at 66. I looked and Jester does indeed type coordinates in, I can't tell if they are different from the original airfield because I started in the air.

 

I asked some folks on the 162nd Vipers Training Server and they say it is a bug that an INS alignment doesn't complete after shutdown.

[QuiGon]

6 minutes ago, PicklePicklePickle said:

I asked some folks on the 162nd Vipers Training Server and they say it is a bug that an INS alignment doesn't complete after shutdown.

 

I can not confirm this when flying with a human RIO. Seems like a Jester bug to me, not an INS bug.

Edited January 29, 2021 by QuiGon