RedTiger Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 (edited) How does LOMAC model the mid-course guidance and terminal guidance for the SARH missiles, specifically the R-27s? I encountered something unbelievable the other day that I have no idea how to explain. I have a Tacview recording of it, but I can't find it! :doh: Here's what happened. I kicked out Mr. AI wingy to bracket some bandits. Once the separated enough to show up properly on the datalink, I assigned wingy the one heading towards him while I took the other one. I launch an R-27RE inside Rmax, crank to the left, and hit the deck. After a few seconds, I lose my lock. Not sure if I was sloppy or if the terrain caused some problems. I quickly bank back right, re-lock, fire another R-27ER, and continue the F-pole. I assume one of the missiles hits because he starts to lose altitude fast and I see some debris. I swing back right and search for the other bandit, wingy didn't say anything about a kill yet. I find him on radar, lock him, but instantly lose lock. AWACS says "clean", which I think is a mistake. The bandit must be low and AWACS can't see him. I call wingy to rejoin and I head for home as fast as possible, using the canyons as cover. AWACS continues to report "clean". I don't even wait to land, I exit because I want to see what happened. It turns out, somehow I got both kills! I fired 2 SARH missiles within less than a minute of each other and both scored a kill!?. I watch Tacview and to my surprise, the bandit that I locked up after losing the lock must have been the other one. BOTH missiles launched were tracking BOTH targets the entire time, even though I clearly didn't have the same thing locked the entire time. What it looked like is that one of my missiles was guided by the wingman's lock, which shouldn't be possible, right? Edited July 21, 2008 by RedTiger
GGTharos Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 No, this is probably not what happened. It is entirely likely that one of your missiles went HoJ on one of the bandits, and the other one simply reacquired because when you relocked the target was in its FoV. Now, the modeling does have some quirks that can permit funky things to happen, but they're typically rare. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Ironhand Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I've had similar things happen to me. It's almost as if the R-27ER, from time to time, suddenly becames an ARH missile guiding on its own. I've always assumed it was a bug. Rich YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
S77th-konkussion Posted July 21, 2008 Posted July 21, 2008 I've noticed this when launched by AI. Typically when the AI has fired, but gone defensive- and has clearly exceeded the lock/ guidance parameters imposed on live pilots. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
RedTiger Posted July 21, 2008 Author Posted July 21, 2008 I wish I could find the Tacview file. It looked so weird, almost like a hack. Both missiles keep flying, obviously tracking, completely independent of what I was doing. The only thing I've seen that matches this is the one time that I clearly had one of my own launched missiles locked up on radar.
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