problem with vaicom pro

[baloueb123]

Hi guys

 

Sorry my englisch is very bad and i use the google translator .

 

First of all, I am a steam use .

 

A few days ago i bought voice attack and vaicom pro . 

 

Voice attack runs very well , but i can't get vaicom pro to run .

I have the vaicom pro complete package for 19,95 €. 

Include are : Airio Dialog Extension , Chatter Themes Extension , Realistic ATC Extension , Interactive Kneeboard Extension .

If I open the Vaicom Pro Editor with Lstrg + Lalt + C , and press the Test buton , I get the following error message :

"1 missing aliases in VA profile Vaicom Pro for DCS World"

 

You can see it on the screenshot

 

What mistake have i made

 

Greetings balou

 

 

[MAXsenna]

Hi guys
 
Sorry my englisch is very bad and i use the google translator .
 
First of all, I am a steam use .
 
A few days ago i bought voice attack and vaicom pro . 
 
Voice attack runs very well , but i can't get vaicom pro to run .
I have the vaicom pro complete package for 19,95 €. 
Include are : Airio Dialog Extension , Chatter Themes Extension , Realistic ATC Extension , Interactive Kneeboard Extension .
If I open the Vaicom Pro Editor with Lstrg + Lalt + C , and press the Test buton , I get the following error message :
"1 missing aliases in VA profile Vaicom Pro for DCS World"
 
You can see it on the screenshot
 
What mistake have i made
 
Greetings balou
 

 

Go to the Editor tab. Click Finish, and follow the instructions in the popup EXACTLY!
The manual is superb and deserves a read. After that you'll probably have a better understanding on how it works.
Cheers!

Edit: And welcome as I VAICOM user. It's a fantastic piece of software I cannot live without.

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[baloueb123]

Hi Maxsenna ,

thank you for your answer .

 

I had already done that, but it does not work  .  I think it could be a problem with the installation path .

I think the installation path for steam is not the same as for the dcs stand alone version .

 

My Steampath : E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\DCSWorld

                           C:\Users\Ingolf\Saved Games\DCS

                           C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common

 

The installation path according to the manual is :

                           C:/Program Files (x86)/VoiceAttack/Apps/VAICOMPRO.

 

I don't know exactly what the installation path for steam should be .

 

 

balou

[MAXsenna]

No forget that. That is if you have the standalone version of Voice Attack, and not Steam. I have Steam version as well, and you have the VAICOM panel open, so it seems it is installed correctly in Voice Attack.

What is the problem you actually have? That it doesn't communicate with DCS?

[baloueb123]

Yes , it dosen´t communicate with DCS .

 

[MAXsenna]

Can you turn on debug, and paste a screen capture of the VA log, and every VAICOM setting?
And again, reading the manual is pretty smart.

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[baloueb123]

vor 18 Stunden schrieb MAXsenna:

Can you turn on debug, and paste a screen capture of the VA log, and every VAICOM setting?
And again, reading the manual is pretty smart.

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  I hope it´s correct

 

Edited March 12, 2021 by baloueb123

[MAXsenna]

Thank you. I'll have a better look when I get to my computer. Cellphone screen is a little too small.
Tips for the future. In Windows when you take a screen capture. You can capture single window with LAlt-prtscr, OR use these applications Snipping tool or Sketch. I think they are already installed.
Cheers!

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[MAXsenna]

Okay, Three things.

1. You haven't turned on debug and restarted yet, but that's okay.

2. You have installed VAICOM in two places. Probably the correct one in your Steam Library, and the incorrect one you mentioned.

3. You are pointing VAICOM to your Saved Games folder, and not the DCS Installation folder.

 

Solve 2 and 3 and I bet you it will start working!

Cheers!

[baloueb123]

Hi MAXsenna

 

Many thanks for your effort and help !!!!

I have reinstalled VA and Vaicom ,this time in the correct path .

Hurray it works . But there is still one small problems .

My own profiles are recognised in dcs without any problems, the profile "Vaicom Pro for DCS World.vap" is not recognised.

The Chatter Add on is installed , but I cannot hear it .

The the kneeboard is displayed after being called up , but you cannot work with .

Can you look at the paths again ?  maybe there's still something wrong

 

vor 7 Stunden schrieb MAXsenna:

You can capture single window with LAlt-prtscr, OR use these applications Snipping tool or Sketch. I think they are already installed.

sorry ,unfortunately not working

 

 

Edited March 13, 2021 by baloueb123

[MAXsenna]

8 minutes ago, baloueb123 said:

Hi MAXsenna

 

Many thanks for your effort and help !!!!

I have reinstalled VA and Vaicom ,this time in the correct path .

Hurray it works . But there is still one small problems .

My own profiles are recognised in dcs without any problems, the profile "Vaicom Pro for DCS World.vap" is not recognised.

The Chatter Add on is installed , but I cannot hear it .

The the kneeboard is displayed after being called up , but you cannot work with .

Can you look at the paths again ?  maybe there's still something wrong

 

sorry ,unfortunately not working

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Remove those extra vaicompro_2_xxxxx folders. They shouldn't be there.

Apart from that it looks okay, but I need to see screen shots of your VAICOM settings. Did you remember to import the profile again into Voice Attack?

 

And pressing Left Alt at the same time as Print Screen should give you something like this. But that's not important. It's just a tip.

 

 

 

 

 

I'm using Snagit, but Snipping Tool/Sketch should do the same. And a fantastic new feature of this forum is now that you can paste directly. Very handy!

Cheers!

[baloueb123]

I hope you mean this

Edited March 13, 2021 by baloueb123

[MAXsenna]

Yup, at least now I can see you're connected to DCS, since it confirms you're in the Hornet.

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[baloueb123]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb MAXsenna:

Yup, at least now I can see you're connected to DCS, since it confirms you're in the Hornet.

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yes, it works now.
I've been working on my settings all afternoon.
I have noticed that my own commandos are better understood than those from vaicom.
That is a pity because it is a lot of work to create the new settings.
I have also noticed that the commandos often have to be re-recorded. 
Is this normal?
Unfortunately, the whole thing runs very unreliably.
I had imagined it would be much better, after all, you pay for it.
19,95 € for it .

thank you again for spending some of your precious time for me.
for me .

 

Have a nice week and many greetings

 

balou

 

[MAXsenna]

 
yes, it works now.
I've been working on my settings all afternoon.
I have noticed that my own commandos are better understood than those from vaicom.
That is a pity because it is a lot of work to create the new settings.
I have also noticed that the commandos often have to be re-recorded. 
Is this normal?
Unfortunately, the whole thing runs very unreliably.
I had imagined it would be much better, after all, you pay for it.
19,95 € for it .
thank you again for spending some of your precious time for me.
for me .
 
Have a nice week and many greetings
 
balou
 

Well, I have trained the Microsoft Speech Recognition many times. Many!
And I have recorded most of the VAICOM commands, and whenever a new command struggles, I add it. I think that some of the issues are that VAICOM uses many commands in a "chain", and that might sometimes lead to issues. But the more I train MS Speech, the better it gets.
If you turn on debug, you'll see exactly what the speech engine thinks you're saying, as VAICOM doesn't do any recognition by itself. Neither does Voice Attack. VAICOM just uses VA to pass the voice to MS that actually does the speech to text recognition. That VA passes back to VAICOM.
I don't know how you handle your own commands. But I keep them in a separate VA profile I've added to the VAICOM profile.
I don't know if this helps.
Cheers!

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[baloueb123]

I still have one question.

As you can see on the screenshot there are two folders with the name "scripts" .
Both with different paths.

the left one : E:\

the right one : E:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\DCSWorld\Scripts

If I delete the left folder, it will be created again the next time I start voiceattack.

Both folders have the same content.

Is this correct?

 

greetings balou

 

 

[MAXsenna]

Was mentioned elsewhere. Wasn't like this before. I get the folder on my C drive.
It will probably be fixed.
Cheers!

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[baloueb123]

i think i will do this programme again from my pc again.
I spent the whole afternoon working with the settings again, and they worked.
That's many hours of work.
This evening I wanted to continue and I noticed that many commands were work incorrectly .
This is just a shitty programme
I cannot recommend anyone to buy it

 

Cheer !

[MAXsenna]

Well, I'm sorry as I don't understand your problem. You say you have made the settings work, but your commands don't work?
How many times have you trained exactly?
Cheers!

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[baloueb123]

I've been working on speech recognition all week.
I've been working on the settings for the last few days.
as soon as I notice that a word is not recognised, I train the word. if it is still not recognised, I take a
another word or term.
But the worst thing is that my settings are recognised and then after a few times they are suddenly no longer recognised, even though I save everything. This makes the work so difficult and pointless.
I always have to start again from the beginning.

I am also working through the manual at the moment.
Since it is written in English, I have to spend a lot of time translating it.
Even the simple commands are difficult. My plan is to use only the radio buttons and the f - keys.
I thought that would not be so difficult , at least it looks easy in the youtube videos.

 

 

Cheers

[MAXsenna]

Ahhhh! I see, with "settings", you actually mean the keywords?
There shouldn't be any issue with the software as many of us are using it with great success. But if one are a non native English speaker like me. Certain words and phrases can be a little stubborn, and needs special care. But it seems like you are already doing the training and dictionary adding.
But on a positive note, the more you use Microsoft Speech, which you are through Voice Attack, the more it will "learn", and the better it will understand you in the future. Also, have you tried the VSPX setting? It seems to work better for some of us.
Hope this helps!

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[baloueb123]

I  have not yet tried the VSPX settings because I have not yet dealt with Vaicom Pro.
The Chatter update does not work either .
Tomorrow I want to save and delete all profiles from VoiceAttack.
Then I want to create a new profile.
I have the suspicion that the programme messes up a lot when you enter new commands in the "Vaicom Pro DCS World".

I will finish the settings for today.
If you have any tips, feel free to post them.

 

balou

[MAXsenna]

I  have not yet tried the VSPX settings because I have not yet dealt with Vaicom Pro.
The Chatter update does not work either .
Tomorrow I want to save and delete all profiles from VoiceAttack.
Then I want to create a new profile.
I have the suspicion that the programme messes up a lot when you enter new commands in the "Vaicom Pro DCS World".
I will finish the settings for today.
If you have any tips, feel free to post them.
 
balou

Like I wrote. I keep all my commands in a separate Voice Attack profile, that I add to the VAICOM profile, to prevent messing with the VAICOM profile.
What doesn't work with Chatter?
Cheers!

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[baloueb123]

I don't hear any sound .

 

The installation paths and settings you can see in the screenshots

 

Good night !

 

balou

[MAXsenna]

I'm on my cell again, but everything looks okay.
Chatter don't start automatic, and radio power must be on, so you must start chatter.
Why have you turned the wheel from normal?
Also, post the Voice Attack log when you start VA and DCS.

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