DSplayer Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 Is there the possibility of more AIM-54 variants coming to the Tomcat? There's an image of an AIM-54C with what appears to be a motor which was painted white while the rest of the missile was grey. I don't know if had a Mk60 or Mk47 motor with an AIM-54C seeker but it would interesting if we had in-game if it had a Mk60 motor along with other interesting variants. Spoiler Spoiler Discord: @dsplayer Setup: R7 7800X3D, 64GB 6000Mhz, Saitek/Logitech X56 HOTAS, TrackIR + TrackClipPro Resources I've Made: F-4E RWR PRF Sound Player | DCS DTC Web Editor Mods I've Made: F-14 Factory Clean Cockpit Mod | Modern F-14 Weapons Mod | Iranian F-14 Weapons Pack | F-14B Nozzle Percentage Mod + Label Fix | AIM-23 Hawk Mod for F-14
BreaKKer Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 From what has been said, the variants in game are all we are getting. I do believe that is an AIM-54C with the Mod 2 Mk47 motor which was the upgrade from our current 54C motor. Just off the top of my head, I do believe that is the 54C+ that got that along with enhanced avionics. BreaKKer CAG and Commanding Officer of: Carrier Air Wing Five // VF-154 Black Knights
Grater Tovakia Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 there is no hard evidence that the 54C was ever fitted with the mk60 motor. While pictures like this offer a good case it should be remembered that 54Cs were painted white, so these could be a case of partially painted missiles and/or these are the "retrofitted upgrades" that occurred in the late 80s and into the 90s but there is no source out there that can hard confirm exactly which missiles were retrofitted/fused. On top of this, AIM-54 upkeep documentation from the 90s makes no mention of the mk60 motor only the mk47 Mod 1 which the A, C, and C ECCM Sealed all had by this time period. Quote " Propulsion Section. The AIM-54A, AIM-54C, and AIM-54C ECCM/Sealed Missile use the MK 47 MOD 1 rocket motor assembly." source: NAVY TRAINING SYSTEM PLAN FOR THE AIM-54 PHOENIX MISSILE 1999 Navy Training System Plan (globalsecurity.org) To be perfectly honest, I don't see any other variants coming to DCS especially seeing how slim our current knowledge on them currently is. One can dream though!
DSplayer Posted July 29, 2021 Author Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 12:49 PM, Grater Tovakia said: there is no hard evidence that the 54C was ever fitted with the mk60 motor. While pictures like this offer a good case it should be remembered that 54Cs were painted white, so these could be a case of partially painted missiles and/or these are the "retrofitted upgrades" that occurred in the late 80s and into the 90s but there is no source out there that can hard confirm exactly which missiles were retrofitted/fused. On top of this, AIM-54 upkeep documentation from the 90s makes no mention of the mk60 motor only the mk47 Mod 1 which the A, C, and C ECCM Sealed all had by this time period. To be perfectly honest, I don't see any other variants coming to DCS especially seeing how slim our current knowledge on them currently is. One can dream though! How about improved variants of the AIM-54A? Like are there is there improvements of the AIM-54A seeker prior to the advancement of the AIM-54C? 1 Discord: @dsplayer Setup: R7 7800X3D, 64GB 6000Mhz, Saitek/Logitech X56 HOTAS, TrackIR + TrackClipPro Resources I've Made: F-4E RWR PRF Sound Player | DCS DTC Web Editor Mods I've Made: F-14 Factory Clean Cockpit Mod | Modern F-14 Weapons Mod | Iranian F-14 Weapons Pack | F-14B Nozzle Percentage Mod + Label Fix | AIM-23 Hawk Mod for F-14
Grater Tovakia Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 1:50 AM, DSplayer said: How about improved variants of the AIM-54A? Like are there is there improvements of the AIM-54A seeker prior to the advancement of the AIM-54C? There were in fact uprgades to the 54As like the HAP (High Altitude Performance) mod but there is little to no info about these mini upgrades anywhere. As is the case with questions surrounding stuff like the TID tapes and their 80s upgrades there is just so many minor tweaks and such out there that we only know the name of and none of the function. Its important to remember also that not every "upgrade" would mean a quantum jump in capability, they could simply be corrective. Sorry for the late reply, Ive been out and about recently. Have a good one! 1
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