Ability to Place Own Predefined Threat Circles/Zones in the Mission Editor, similar to Trigger Zones.

[Shadow KT]

As per the tittle, the Ability to Place Own Predefined Threat Circles/Zones in the Mission Editor, similar to Trigger Zones.

Current limitation is rather limited. If you the hostile groups set to not show on MFD, they will never show. If you don't have that checked, their position will be updated every time you slot into an aircraft.

What if you are playing a realistic campaign and knew where a certain SAM was, or a certain Battalion of units was, but they moved during the mission or even before the mission, because you had old intel.

This would be a nice feature to have, being similar to a system we already have in the Mission Editor. With no need for a data cartridge.

[Tippis]

That would be nice, but it should also be tied into a DTC mechanism tbh. Especially if it was tied into a system similar to what the Viggen offers, where you can use elint data from one mission to feed into a “known targets” list that can be used in the next one. So rather than it being auto-updated whenever you enter an aircraft, what you get fed is the current known picture (upon loading an updated DTC), tracked on a per-coalition basis, which may or may not accurately represent the current state, depending on what was detected and identified when.

[Exorcet]

1 hour ago, Tippis said:

That would be nice, but it should also be tied into a DTC mechanism tbh.

It depends. For continuous missions or campaigns sure, but it should also have a simpler mode for stand alone missions where there won't be a before/after.

 

Something else that might go nicely with this is an improved briefing/mission planner page. In my opinion both assume you know too much a lot of the time, be it knowing exact enemy numbers and position or even showing enemy waypoints precisely. We need more realistic uncertainty.

[Tippis]

2 hours ago, Exorcet said:

It depends. For continuous missions or campaigns sure, but it should also have a simpler mode for stand alone missions where there won't be a before/after.

 

Something else that might go nicely with this is an improved briefing/mission planner page. In my opinion both assume you know too much a lot of the time, be it knowing exact enemy numbers and position or even showing enemy waypoints precisely. We need more realistic uncertainty.

Sure, but one wouldn't really preclude the other.

 

Even in a simpler mode, it would probably be best populated via some DTC mechanism, and then it becomes a matter of whether the “simpler mode” is just the DTC being preloaded when you enter the aircraft (hot starts, air starts, and the like). The other thing that could/would conceivably be populated is the kneeboard mission map, same as with how it now auto-populates waypoints, and it would need a very similar logic as to when it is activated/updated.

 

The reason I am strongly in favour of a DTC solution regardless is that this would create a single solution (for this and a whole bunch of other things) rather than half a dozen different special cases that lead to the same outcome. With that kind of baseline, it could even end up standardising what the exact state of any given aircraft is depending on how their start is set up. Eg. a hot start of any kind would always mean DTC is loaded — something that differs between aircraft at the moment. I understand that it's a slight hijack of the thread, but it's more that once you start fiddling with these details, it's probably worth doing it universally and doing it right. It's my strong conviction that DTC is that “right” way of doing it. Of course, exactly how you draw the things in the mission editor/planner, and/or have it be auto-generated via the ME flags, is still something that needs to be decided, and the idea of having it as a drawing tool of sort, like you describe, is a very good idea regardless.

[Shadow KT]

9 hours ago, Tippis said:

That would be nice, but it should also be tied into a DTC mechanism tbh. Especially if it was tied into a system similar to what the Viggen offers, where you can use elint data from one mission to feed into a “known targets” list that can be used in the next one. So rather than it being auto-updated whenever you enter an aircraft, what you get fed is the current known picture (upon loading an updated DTC), tracked on a per-coalition basis, which may or may not accurately represent the current state, depending on what was detected and identified when.

Yes, but we don't have a DTC. So for the time being, this would be a good to have feature, without one. 

[Exorcet]

14 hours ago, Tippis said:

once you start fiddling with these details, it's probably worth doing it universally and doing it right.

That's always a good stance to take, and I agree. I misunderstood your original post to advertently imply a more complex implementation than what you were actually asking for.