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Attached 2 tracks from the Weapons Qualification AIM-7 mission provided with the Hornet.

 

First track I went into TWS and then STT via SCS Right, AIM-7Fs go dumb off the rail.

Second track I went STT via RWS also using SCS Right, same result. Note I fired all 4 of my MH missiles and they tracked just fine on the same target, so if there is an issue I'm pretty sure it's platform and system agnostic, I've had issues with the AIM-7F on the F-14 too in the past but I don't have any tracks at hand to show that.

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Tested as well. Tracks correctly with STT from ACM, but not with STT from RWS/TWS.

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It probably shouldn't even be available on the hornet.

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Out of the relevant time frame.  I can't be sure that the APG-73 can't guide it, but I doubt it would be available in the stores programming.  It operates on different principles than the 7M and basically it would have been completely phased out IMHO by the time the 18C came along.

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As of last night I was able to use the AIM-7F in all situations, RWS -> STT, TWS -> STT and ACM -> STT. All worked and tracked fine. 

On 8/10/2021 at 3:21 AM, TordinVarglund said:

First track I went into TWS and then STT via SCS Right, AIM-7Fs go dumb off the rail.

I'm not at home and unable to watch the track, but did you press the Cage/Uncage button to toggle the LOFT off? This will make the 7F go dumb as it was never meant to loft.

 

On 8/10/2021 at 3:21 AM, TordinVarglund said:

Note I fired all 4 of my MH missiles and they tracked just fine on the same target

This most likely because by default with you select an AIM-7, it's set to loft, which the 7MH is designed to be capable of doing.

I was in a PVP game just the other night, I was flying the Hornet with 7Fs equiped and keeping in mind to make sure I press Cage/Uncage to remove LOFT. I was able to shoot down a good 3-4 players in the match! Perhaps the recent update fixed the 7F. As I can say for sure, they are performing a whole lot better than they used to!

 

 

On 8/14/2021 at 6:24 AM, GGTharos said:

It probably shouldn't even be available on the hornet.

All I can say about this is, if the wiring and software was present at the given time frame (regardless of weapon stock or timeframe). The module should be able to employ such weapons in DCS. This doesn't turn the hornet into a "Frankenjet" as it is still an F/A-18C Lot. 20. I'm no expert in the matter but if ED's SME's believe they are possible then who are we to say otherwise? If not feel free to inform ED of the mistake, I'm sure they'll be happy to take in the information, provided it's legal of course.

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The AIM-7M entered service in 82, the F-18A entered service in 83.  If any version of the F-18 is capable of using the 7F, it's going to be for training.  You'd never see it in combat and I would have doubts that it exists in inventory at all by the time the Block 20 came along.

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9 hours ago, KIllshot0597 said:

As of last night I was able to use the AIM-7F in all situations, RWS -> STT, TWS -> STT and ACM -> STT. All worked and tracked fine. 

I'm not at home and unable to watch the track, but did you press the Cage/Uncage button to toggle the LOFT off? This will make the 7F go dumb as it was never meant to loft.

As of the last patch it seems to have been fixed although I have not tested it extensively.

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4 hours ago, GGTharos said:

The AIM-7M entered service in 82, the F-18A entered service in 83.

For all we know by the time the F-18C came out only 4 years later to add to this, there would've been a lot of stock for the 7F still available to the F-18C at that point in time. Which leads too.....

 

4 hours ago, GGTharos said:

it's going to be for training

....it being used for training as you said so yourself. You forget NTTR exists right? People might want to roleplay being in a training exercise and load up some 7Fs? 

I'll say it again,  if the wiring and software was present at the given time frame regardless of weapon stock or doctrine. Then that specific ordinance belongs to the module. 

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