Is there a binding for ELEC/PNEU and ADI adjust switch

[Red Dog]

All's in the title? I'm looking for a binding to program a key for the Altimeter mode switch ELEC/PNEU

Am I missing it or is it not present?

Edited January 7, 2024 by Red Dog

[LeCuvier]

I could not find it in "default.lua". It could probably be created from info in "clickabledata.lua".
But I'm not sure I understand how it's supposed to work. When I use it with the mouse left or right click, the switch will go to ELEC or PNEU, but returns to the OFF (middle) position as soon as I release the mouse button. If that's how it should work, I could probably provide two lines of code for use with a pair of pushbuttons.
Please let me know if that's what you want!

[Red Dog]

I'd guess it's a pushbutton like behaviour. The real switch is simply spring loaded (electrically held) if I remember right.
It toggles from ELECT to PNEU
PNEU being pneumatic when CADC is off or failed and ELEC being the main mode 
The switch position has no real impact because PNEU mode is indicated by the yellow FLAG.

One of the checks are usually to ensure that these two modes are within 75 feet of one another.

[LeCuvier]

These two lines of code seem to do what you describe:

{down = alt_commands.ELEC, up = alt_commands.ELEC, value_down = -1.0, value_up = 0.0, cockpit_device_id = devices.AAU34, name = _('Altimeter Mode Switch ELEC/OFF'), category = {_('Instrument Panel')}},
{down = alt_commands.PNEU, up = alt_commands.PNEU, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 0.0, cockpit_device_id = devices.AAU34, name = _('Altimeter Mode Switch PNEU/OFF'), category = {_('Instrument Panel')}},

ED will probably provide them "in due course". If you can't wait:
They need to go into the "default.lua" under "\joystick" or "\keyboard" depending on where you want to use the commands.

[Red Dog]

Many thanks; I'll test them out

[Red Dog]

works fine, many thanks

Much appreciated as it was one of the last few things forcing me to use the mouse during ramp start 

Edited January 8, 2022 by Red Dog

[Red Dog]

Could I abuse and ask the same for the ADI adjust symbol? (the small airplane model used to set right in the center of the ADI)
It's currently implemented as a potentiometer, but not as a key as far as I can see.
Probably not something widely used, but in a pit with the seat adjust and flying IFR, it is useful
Thanks

 I tried this:

{	down = alt_commands.ADI_ZeroPitchTrimLeft,		up = alt_commands.ADI_ZeroPitchTrimLeft, 	value_down = -1.0, value_up = 0.0, 	cockpit_device_id = devices.ADI, 		name = _('ADI Trim Knob - CCW'), 						category = {_('Instrument Panel')}},
{	down = alt_commands.ADI_ZeroPitchTrimRight, 	up = alt_commands.ADI_ZeroPitchTrimRight, 	value_down = 1.0, value_up = 0.0, 	cockpit_device_id = devices.ADI, 		name = _('ADI Trim Knob - CW'), 						category = {_('Instrument Panel')}},

and although I see the lines in the control binding screen, assigning it and testing it does not give any result. The default potentiometer assignation works though 

Edited January 7, 2024 by Red Dog

[LeCuvier]

You are trying to re-invent some wheels here . The button commands "Pitch Trim Knob - CW" and "Pitch Trim Knob - CCW" already exist under the category "Instrument Panel".

[Red Dog]

You're right, I found them - even better

Silly me then, I must have missed them the first time

 

To my defense Pitch trim knob really doesn't make me think of the ADI, but rather the MAN TRIM pitch controls (which are not in the instrument section)

My apologies. and thank you

[LeCuvier]

46 minutes ago, Red Dog said:

To my defense Pitch trim knob really doesn't make me think of the ADI, but rather the MAN TRIM pitch controls (which are not in the instrument section)

I agree, the "ADI" was stupidly omitted from the binding's name. Very misleading.

[Capt. Morgan]

Red Dog,

I'm a year late to this discussion but I am also trying to map the ELEC/PNEU and I'm not finding the proper .lua file. Do you happen to remember exactly where you put the code? I tried searching for default.lua but those only exist in aircraft mods folder and I don't have an F-16 mod.

Any help is appreciated.

 

Thanks

[Capt. Morgan]

It appears I was going down the wrong path (Local Disk (C)>Users>owner>saved games> dcs open beta). That path has no F-16 Mods. Then, I found the following path 

Local Disk (C)>Program Files> Eagle Dynamics> DCSWorld Open Beta> Mods> aircraft> F-16C>Input>Joystick. But when I attempt to change the default.lua file I get a message that says I don't have permission to edit the file. So which file EXACTLY do I need to change?

Anyone have any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

[LeCuvier]

You need to open Notepad++ in Admin mode ("run as administrator").

Edited January 14, 2024 by LeCuvier

[Red Dog]

yep, first thing is to ensure you have admin rights with notepad++

then from my understanding (Lecuvier will correct me if I'm wrong)
then you can either do it in keyboard\default.lua or joystick\default.lua depending if you want to assign this to a keyboard keypress (then do it in keyboard\default.lua) or a DX button of one of your button boxes or joysticks - then do it in joystick\default.lua

I did it in joystick\default.lua and assigned it as a DX button of one of my BU0836 

Edited January 14, 2024 by Red Dog

[Capt. Morgan]

LeCuvier and Red Dog,

 

Thank you both for your replies. I'm super new to .lua files and I am not familiar with admin mode in notepad. I'll give it a try. I appreciate the info.

[flaj]

Bump, lol. Can we ask ED to finally add this function (PNEU/ELEC) into the Controls menu without messing with the lua file? ;].
Not sure but the ejection seat arm toggle is also missing in the menu (can't check this atm).

[LeCuvier]

On 11/1/2024 at 1:34 AM, flaj said:

...
Not sure but the ejection seat arm toggle is also missing in the menu (can't check this atm).

Isn't that what the command "Ejection Seat SAFE/ARMED Handle - SAFE/ARMED" does?

[Red Dog]

On 11/2/2024 at 10:23 AM, LeCuvier said:

Isn't that what the command "Ejection Seat SAFE/ARMED Handle - SAFE/ARMED" does?

I can't find that one either LeCuvier, at least not in the default.
It's one that you have to custom add and redo after every update.
It would be great if all of these indeed could be added in the default install. 

- PNEU/ ELEC (currently assigned in my system as a DX entry)

{    down = alt_commands.ELEC,                     up = alt_commands.ELEC,             value_down = -1.0, value_up = 0.0,     cockpit_device_id = devices.AAU34,             name = _('Altimeter Mode Switch ELEC/OFF'),                     category = {_('Instrument Panel')}},
{    down = alt_commands.PNEU,                     up = alt_commands.PNEU,             value_down = 1.0, value_up = 0.0,     cockpit_device_id = devices.AAU34,             name = _('Altimeter Mode Switch PNEU/OFF'),                     category = {_('Instrument Panel')}},

- EJECTION SEAT ARM/SAFE (currently not assigned (left empty)

-- Self added Sept2024 
{                                                    down = iCommandPlaneEject,                 pressed = iCommandPlaneEject, up = iCommandPlaneEject,                         name = _('Eject (press once)'), category = _('Systems')},
{                                                     down = cpt_commands.EjectionSafetyLever, cockpit_device_id = devices.CPT_MECH, value_down = 0.0,                     name = _('Ejection Safety Lever, SAFE'), category = {_('Systems')}},
{                                                     down = cpt_commands.EjectionSafetyLever, cockpit_device_id = devices.CPT_MECH, value_down = 1.0,                     name = _('Ejection Safety Lever, ARMED'), category = {_('Systems')}},
{                                                     down = cpt_commands.EjectionSafetyLever, up = cpt_commands.EjectionSafetyLever, cockpit_device_id = devices.CPT_MECH, value_down = 1.0, value_up = 0.0, name = _('Ejection Safety Lever, ARMED/SAFE'), category = {_('Systems')}},

- FUEL QTY TEST momentary (currently assigned in my system as keyboard "CTL ALT w")

{down = fuel_commands.FuelQtySelSwTEST,    pressed = fuel_commands.FuelQtySelSwTEST, up = fuel_commands.FuelQtySelSwTEST, cockpit_device_id = devices.FUEL_INTERFACE, value_down =  0.1, value_pressed = -0.1,    value_up = 0.1,    name = _('FUEL QTY SEL Knob - TEST Button Special'), category = {_('Instrument Panel')}},

 

Please ED, do something about it. 

Edited November 7, 2024 by Red Dog

[LeCuvier]

58 minutes ago, Red Dog said:

I can't find that one either LeCuvier, at least not in the default...

I apologize. You're right, I must have looked at the Hornet. Sorry.