AV8B Harrier ATHS points

[Lowlyslows]

Hello,

I play a ton of missions where the F10 map isn't utilized for realism. 

How does the pre planned function work for the TGTS (JDAM) section of CAS page if you don't use Mark Labels? Are these points able to be placed in the mission editor? 

[buur]

simple short and quick answer:
No

Unfortunately we are not able to place it in Mission editor. 

[Lowlyslows]

39 minutes ago, buur said:

simple short and quick answer:
No

Unfortunately we are not able to place it in Mission editor. 

Actually, you can. I did some testing with Mark Points in the mission editor today.

 

Use trigger zones and triggers "mark to coalition."

1) Place a trigger zone (100') radius and name it 00 on a random location (not target) at the target area.

2) Place up to 18 more trigger zones same size and name them T01-T18

3) Create Trigger: Once, no conditions, Mark To Coalition (value 1, do not enter any text, zone is 00, Coalition is Blue, readonly checked). Should read as:: Mark to Coalition (1,,00,Blue,True)

4) Create Trigger: Once, no conditions, Mark to Coalition (value 2, T01, zone is T01, Coalition is blue, readonly checked) Should read as: Mark to Coatlion (2, T01, T01, Blue, True)

5) Clone step 4 and increment the value, text (T02, T03....), and zone

 

Once that's done, you can follow the procedures in the Harrier (kneeboard) to grab the target points and then assign up to 10 JDAMs. It will always assign the T01-T10 to the first 10 target points, but you can change that. If there is another Harrier in the flight that wants to attack the last 8 targets, then they can reassign the target points under the CAS page. Just highlight the want you want to attack, hit use, enter target number (1-8) and hit enter. Rinse and repeat.

I hope this helps the community! I searched all day and couldn't find this anywhere. I did learn how to manually enter all 10 targets into the CAS page as well, but preloading is much easier, and you don't have to use the F10 map to do it!

-Lowlyslows (Snowman)

 

[buur]

@Lowlyslows good finding.

I give it a try tomorrow.

Thanks

 

[Lowlyslows]

9 hours ago, buur said:

@Lowlyslows good finding.

I give it a try tomorrow.

Thanks

 

Let me know how it goes! I sent this to the Grim Reapers. They are going to verify and hopefully make a video.

[Lowlyslows]

Here is a step by step Guide to create pre loaded target points to rain hate (10 JDAMs) in a single pass using the mission editor:

 

Set Trigger Zones as below

Create first Trigger as show (once, Mark to Coalition). You have to have a blank zone for this to work so nothing in the text section.

Create a new trigger. This will be the first target. Note the value changed, text was added (T01, must be entered like this), the zone changed to first target, and set the Coalition as desired (I was blue this day)).

Rinse and repeat to the desired number of targets (18 max), note the changes

Go to CAS page once you're in the mission

Select RCALL page

Note the target section is blank

Open kneeboard and locate (1 page to the right). Note that the target list is empty

Press Right Shift + Right Alt + 8 (you can bind this) to generate list

Open Stores page

On ODU select TGTS

Select Targets desired to destroy. 4 per page

Select TGTS to go to the next page

Repeat up to 10 max. X is number 10

Select fuze and CCRP (AUT=Auto)

In order to get symbology, you must select A/G AND on the map page box DESG. Otherwise, this won't work.

Note Symbology. N with the numbers is the target list order that the computer generated for the best possible release order

Watch the accuracy numbers increase. Expect to "pickle" at 90%. This value is currently at 29%

Hold that release button down and let the computer do the work. I usually have AFC and Alt hold on. If you do this, then the autopilot will keep reset to wings level while the bombs are releasing. Not roll input required from the pilot!

Looks awesome!

All JDAMs released

Fun to watch on various camera selections

Tricky but not tricky part. If you have more than 10 targets then you can have a wingman target these from the start or you can land, re-arm, and go destroy these as well. Note the RCALL page and targets 11-14 don't have a T# on the right. Thats because you can only do 10 at a time. You have to move the T# to the undesignated targets. 

1) Scroll down to #11. The CAS page displays REQ#s so note that it's number 12 (REQ12)

2) Note the REQ# you're trying to set to the new Target

3) Click USE to set the target number

4) On the UFC, set desired target number (1-10(x)) and hit enter. It will verify the change when the UFC reports back a T with the desired number next to it.

Verify the change in the RCALL page

Repeat steps 1-4 to finish assigned the rest of the targets. In this case there are 3 more to assign. 

 

Hope this helps the community. I emailed Grim Reapers who will hopefully make a video on how to do this!

 

-Snowman

 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Lowlyslows

[buur]

Thanks for the great explanation. Very good.

An additional finding: In "Mark to coalition", the field value results in the record in kneeboard and the request number. Maybe good for easy communication.

Also it works if you work with "more time" in the triggers. 

[Lowlyslows]

1 hour ago, buur said:

Thanks for the great explanation. Very good.

An additional finding: In "Mark to coalition", the field value results in the record in kneeboard and the request number. Maybe good for easy communication.

Also it works if you work with "more time" in the triggers. 

Awesome!

[buur]

I've tested if it is possible to do this via script. Yes it is.

Here a brief example:
 

trigger.action.markToCoalition(1000 , "T00" , {0,0,0} , 2 , true, "dummy Target") -- dummy target, will not shown in target list


Tank = Group.getByName( "TANK" )

if Tank and Tank:isExist() then
 local Vec3 = Tank:getUnit(1):getPosition().p
 trigger.action.markToCoalition(1001 , -- unique id, shows up as request number
								"T01" , -- declare it as target for the Harrier
								Vec3 , 
								2 , 
								true, -- read only
								"1. Target") -- string messsage
end


Tank_1 = Group.getByName( "TANK-1" )

if Tank_1 and Tank_1:isExist() then
 local Vec3_1 = Tank_1:getUnit(1):getPosition().p
 trigger.action.markToCoalition(1002 , "T02" , Vec3_1 , 2 , true, "2. Target")
end

 

[rwbishUP]

Wow, great findings, thanks for all of the information!

[Lowlyslows]

On 1/17/2022 at 12:25 PM, buur said:

I've tested if it is possible to do this via script. Yes it is.

Here a brief example:
 

trigger.action.markToCoalition(1000 , "T00" , {0,0,0} , 2 , true, "dummy Target") -- dummy target, will not shown in target list


Tank = Group.getByName( "TANK" )

if Tank and Tank:isExist() then
 local Vec3 = Tank:getUnit(1):getPosition().p
 trigger.action.markToCoalition(1001 , -- unique id, shows up as request number
								"T01" , -- declare it as target for the Harrier
								Vec3 , 
								2 , 
								true, -- read only
								"1. Target") -- string messsage
end


Tank_1 = Group.getByName( "TANK-1" )

if Tank_1 and Tank_1:isExist() then
 local Vec3_1 = Tank_1:getUnit(1):getPosition().p
 trigger.action.markToCoalition(1002 , "T02" , Vec3_1 , 2 , true, "2. Target")
end

 

Out of me league!!! Glad it can be scripted 

[buur]

Here a small addition  to the topic:

The text e.g. T00, T01, T02, .... is not so important. It must only TNumberNumber. The number itself does not influence anything in the game.

So when you make the first mark to coalition write in T00 and than you can simply copy the marker. But you have to change the value for each mark! Otherwise they won't show up.

The order of the target points is simply the creation order. 

[Lowlyslows]

All, looks like this is now broken do to an update. I am trying to figure out how to make it work again.

[TBo69]

Any updates on this? I can sync points added via the F10 view, but cannot get any to work (even with the 'new' "#TP1" format) via the Mission Editor "Mark to Coalition" or "Mark to Group" event.

EDIT: Apparently a known bug that take years to fix: 

 

Edited March 28, 2024 by TBo69

[Sindar]

The guide that is posted above does not work.  There is a “Chek MAP for Target Locations” feature in the control settings, but it is not working Why is the target list not loading? Is this feature not active now?

[buur]

unfortunately this guide is outdated and not longer working.

Edited May 28, 2024 by buur

[Sindar]

8 минут назад, buur сказал:

unfortunately this guide is outdated and not longer working.

 

Thank you very much. Can I sell this module back to DCS? I'm tired of waiting a few years for it to improve.

 

[buur]

Think the real problem is that we wait now several years on the Data Cartridge and mission planning system promised by ED. And above solution was a hack from RB to give us players a solution.