Dimensions of the Ka-50 - cockpit

[Simpit]

I´m using solid edge 2D from Siemens (freeware). It produces dft-files:

[BaD CrC]

F16 front panel is likely to be narrower than the Ka-50 front panel as aerodynamics doesn't look as critical for the latter than for the gorgeous F16 design. Hence the 20 cm difference? Thanks Simpit for centralizing all the data for the builder. I believe we can make things go faster and nicer by team working.

[Simpit]

I agree with you. If you know the correct dimensions, let me know. The Frontpanel of my F16-Pit is clearly below 80 cm. But the dimensions of the Ka-50 are estimated. The advantage of a smaller pit are obviously, if you don´t have a hangar for your pit.

 

But if anyone have the realistic dimensions, I´ll change it. I don´t say, the triggerhappy´s design isn´t realistic.

[Triggerhappy69]

Sorry guys.. Had a computer crash on my CAD Computer.. But I managed to fix it.. Seems to be the Chipset that has overheated..

 

As far as "realistic" goes I have no idea if I am spot on with my drawings. I have worked from the assumption that the largest gauges on the Front Instrument Panel are 75mm in diameter. And scaled everything accordingly..

 

I got the 75mm reference from a russian site describing different RU instruments.

 

 

 

.. They really do have some interresting engineering in RU Aero industry electronics, at least compared to western..? It's rugged, but it works, and it doesn't look like it's going to break down anytime soon.. LoL

 

 

Ps. I have e-mailed the Front Pedestal drawings to you SimPit. Working on the Pedals complete drawings now, and after that comes the Lower Left panel.

 

Question..? Do you want the main structure drawings first? Or should I start on the APU-Panel and R-800 and-so-on before moving to the next structural module (Lower Right Panel)?

Edited January 29, 2009 by Triggerhappy69

[BaD CrC]

Personnaly, I ordered all the components for the right panel (power supply, pumps, fuel vanes, fire extinguisher,...) as it seems to be the easiest to start with (only switches), so I wouldn't mind if you have some dimensions for this part. But that is just me.

[Triggerhappy69]

Personnaly, I ordered all the components for the right panel (power supply, pumps, fuel vanes, fire extinguisher,...) as it seems to be the easiest to start with (only switches), so I wouldn't mind if you have some dimensions for this part. But that is just me.

 

 

Well I actually haven't even started on that one yet.. But I'll try and hurry.. Seems I'm lagging a bit here.. LoL

[Simpit]

Sorry guys.. Had a computer crash on my CAD Computer.. But I managed to fix it.. Seems to be the Chipset that has overheated..

 

As far as "realistic" goes I have no idea if I am spot on with my drawings. I have worked from the assumption that the largest gauges on the Front Instrument Panel are 75mm in diameter. And scaled everything accordingly..

 

 

.. They really do have some interresting engineering in RU Aero industry electronics, at least compared to western..? It's rugged, but it works, and it doesn't look like it's going to break down anytime soon.. LoL

 

 

Ps. I have e-mailed the Front Pedestal drawings to you SimPit. Working on the Pedals complete drawings now, and after that comes the Lower Left panel.

 

Question..? Do you want the main structure drawings first? Or should I start on the APU-Panel and R-800 and-so-on before moving to the next structural module (Lower Right Panel)?

 

Wonderful :thumbup:! I´ll try to publish the files next days and will inform you.

 

The instrument you found is a good basis to calculate the dimension.

 

I think the panels in the front-area (i.e. PUI 800 etc.) of the pit are the most important parts.

[soup55]

BaD CrC,

Would you mind telling where you ordered your parts from? It would be of great help! Thanks! Sincerely,

 

Soup55

KSC

[BaD CrC]

Hi soup55,

 

Opencockpits.com, but it's in Europe (Spain). You may want to find a store in the US considering the euro/dollar exchange rate these days.

[BaD CrC]

Guys,

 

Found these absolutely priceless pics from Ka 50 cockpit. I'm pretty sure it can help to determine dimensions.

Check this out:

 

 

 

 

 

All the pictures here:

 

http://walkarounds.airforce.ru/avia/rus/kamov/ka-50/

[BaD CrC]

Did you notice the hidden device on the HUD side? I'm so curious now about what it can be.

 

Check out also the overhead panel pic. There is something missing in the DCS BS cockpit.

 

[Simpit]

Ok, a few files are uploaded:

 

http://home.arcor.de/simpit/Downloads/Black_Shark/black_shark.html

 

Further files will follow in the next days.

 

Tell me, if there are download-problems.

Edited February 28, 2010 by Simpit

[BaD CrC]

Works fine for me. Pretty good looking job Triggerhappy. looking forward to see your work for the panels.

[Simpit]

Give me the true value of only one analog gauge of the Ka-50 and we will specify the realistic dimensions :smilewink:.

[Swetrekki]

well it states the dimensions for the ABRIS here... not an analogue gauge but it should work just aswell

http://trekki.no-ip.org/images/photos/Blackshark/ABRIS_eng.pdf

 

220Х260Х147 mm; 5,5 kg

Edited January 30, 2009 by Swetrekki

[BaD CrC]

Swetrekki, this is brillant stuff you found!! This is gonna help me a lot. Let's go to work!!

 

Triggerhappy, does it match your drawings?

[Swetrekki]

i cant take credit for it, i found it on the dsc forum, but cant remember who posted it.

It seems if read the right drawing from trigger that his ABRIS is a bit smaller, but i will leave the final word to trigger on that one. If you dont plan on drawing everything from scratch yourself, i would recommend gooing for triggers measurements as he's got most things drawn already and it fits together.

[Simpit]

Well, now I agree. Triggerhappy´s Pit is scale. Only his ABRIS is a bit too small. the ABRIS reaches up to the Shkval-Monitor:

Edited January 30, 2009 by Simpit

[Simpit]

The dimensions of

 

the middle-console is circa 201 mm.

 

the PUI 115 cm.

 

Do you agree?

[BaD CrC]

Simpit seems to have uploaded more Triggerhappy drawings. Worked for me to download. Thanks to you guys! Some side panel in view Triggerhappy?

Edited January 31, 2009 by BaD CrC

[Simpit]

Simpit seems to have uploaded more Triggerhappy drawings.

 

Further drawings will follow, but I´ve not yet side panels!

 

But I will soon create the most important panels for targeting and autopilot on the base of triggerhappy´s dimensions and the ABRIS-documentation of Swetrekki.

[soup55]

Thanks

 

A big thanks to Triggerhappy and Simpit:beer: for providing the drawings, photos, and, simpits web page! Thank you gentlemen!:thumbup:

[Simpit]

Thank you soup.

 

Here some more files concerning the left panel:

 

http://home.arcor.de/simpit/Downloads/Black_Shark/Download-Page/download-page.html

 

Much fun!

[soup55]

Thanks simpit,

Much fun, and, good stuff! And thanks also to Triggerhappy!

 

Soup55

[BaD CrC]

Excellent! Thanks guys! You are real life savers for me. Keep up the excellent work.