CPG Training

[Phantom-13]

Hello, My Callsign is Phantom I fly with an amazing flight wing but sadly no one is too familiar with the CPG seat and I was looking for someone to train me possibly since we do use the helo often. But everyone uses George lol, Well I want to be a George if anyone can help me do that I'd appreciate it lots. If you have a discord link that'd be great. And I am using the Winwing Orion throttle as well as the Winwing Orion 2 stick and base for the F-18c 
Don't worry I'm not 12 years old haha.

[NeedzWD40]

Quickest way is to load up in single player, jump in the front seat, and take control over from George. Use a modifier on your controls for swapping between generic flight and TADS. Start off by using attitude hold to steady a hover while you run the TADS, then graduate to Ka-50 style operation. It's not that different from running a jet with a TGP once you get the hang of it.

[Phantom-13]

45 minutes ago, NeedzWD40 said:

Quickest way is to load up in single player, jump in the front seat, and take control over from George. Use a modifier on your controls for swapping between generic flight and TADS. Start off by using attitude hold to steady a hover while you run the TADS, then graduate to Ka-50 style operation. It's not that different from running a jet with a TGP once you get the hang of it.

My problem lies within key bindings etc no one really has a clear video or breakdown of it right now.

[NeedzWD40]

If you haven't, duplicate the back seat controls and axis bindings in the front, except for the WAS. You want the TEDAC WAS bound rather than the stick WAS so you can use rockets in cooperative mode. For TEDAC/TADS mode, LMC/Linear Motion Compensator is a must-have bind, along with SLAVE. MAN TRK/Manual Track will be the primary way to control the TADS, so you'll want that on a ministick if possible as a 4 way is kind of hard to use. RHG LRFD Trigger second detent for full laser capability; if you have the buttons, you can add the first detent, but I only use the second. Lastly, LHG TADS FOV switch bound to a four way, at least until we can get a toggle. A binding to cover the DTV/FLIR toggle is useful if you have the space, but it isn't a requirement. That covers the essentials for operating the TADS.

As I use a modifier, what I do is sight select TADS, then set GHS as my sight source. I then shift over to my TADS/TEDAC mode and my sight selector becomes FOV selector, my cursor axis becomes my TADS manual track, and everything else remains the same. In an emergency, I can quickly switch my mode back to standard flight and sight select HMD without taking my hands off the stick and throttle.

[Floyd1212]

You will find a lot of people use an XBox controller as your left-hand and right-hand grips on the TEDAC.  You can see some recommendations for how to map those buttons to a controller like that in the Controller Questions and Bugs subforum.

When I am in the front seat (which isn't often), I use the controller in my hands and then occasionally use my mouse to click in the cockpit.  In conjunction with head tracking, I rarely need to put my hands on my cyclic or collective.  I have a button on the controller to toggle between free-looking around the cockpit and out the window with my head-tracker, and to a snap-view of the TEDAC pretty much full-screen. With my wide monitor I get the TEDAC and both MFDs filling my screen.

Things are going to get more complicated when IAT and FCR are implemented, but for now there are plenty of buttons.

[skypickle]

!THIS^
 

The muscle memory required for two different seats needs to be explicit with use of two different controllers. Otherwise your brain will struggle remembering the different mappings