I would love to hear the sound of our Harriers in DCS sound like this.

[exhausted]

6 hours ago, yngvef said:

Those defending the sounds seem to be misunderstanding something. Yes, the idle sounds are okay-ish, at least when parked on the ground, not moving. I've never stood right next to a Harrier with its engine running on idle anyway. I've also never been inside the cockpit of a Harrier that is running its engine. 

But that's not what the main complaints are about. At least not from my point of view.

Try a high power flyby (F3 camera), or hovering seen from an external camera at a distance. It sounds absolute trash. When a real Harrier is hovering a few hundred meters away from you, you don't hear a "tone", all you hear a wall of white noise, almost like an afterburner. Anyone who's ever been to an airshow should know this.

The flyby (something I heard a LOT during NATO exercises where I live some years ago) also sounds like any other jet plane. From the front you'll hear some different tones from it, but from the back it sounds like a jet plane, with more or less just white noise (no discernable "tone"). The white noise mayb have a higher frequency (thinner sound) than maybe an F-16 or something and a bit less volume, but that scrawny "meowwwwww" when it flies by in F3 camera in DCS sounds like complete and utter crap and anyone with ears should be able to hear that.

 

All those talking about how they used to work with Harriers must either have bad recollection or, more likely, are misunderstanding what we are talking about.

 

And yes, I am fully aware that we can't get the full "experience" of hearing a real jet on a computer. But ALL other modules sound more realistic than the Harrier.

 

I think we've been covering a lot. We talked about idling, we talked about cockpit noises, and now we're beginning to focus on the sound at high thrust levels. I hinted that it doesn't really whine at high power levels. It absolutely rumbles. Even though the original post caught some of the rumbling, but those samples were pretty poor (I referred to them as resembling point and shoot mics from early-2000s). The video in the original post also depicted cockpit noises and the low power sounds rather badly. So in terms of those, I think it's safe to say Razbam is objectively closer than that video example.  

That being said, there objectively should be more "rumble" and less "wine" at higher power levels. I think the 'bones' of the sound are there, but the rumble should be boosted and the whine should be nearly removed.

 

Edited November 6, 2022 by exhausted

[sgtoinkz]

Has anyone tried the “CORE” mod from echo19audio.com for comparison? They have modded a lot of audio for DCS from the looks of it. It’s noted on their website that the Harrier audio has been tweaked. I have not downloaded this mod yet, maybe this can help?

Edited November 6, 2022 by sgtoinkz

[Thanatos31]

yes, CORE adds some ok outside effects and make it sounds way more like the jet in real life, but it's not a "big sound overhaul" by any stretch. Very welcome addition though!