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Hi there, loved the campaign but mission 10 could use some rework. After Killing "The Snake" the SAM that goes rogue is a SA-10, which is the most dreaded SAM in the game, a barrage of missiles fires away at you and your wingman, Its impossible to dodge all after being right on top of it at 20+ thousand feets. I noticed you made the flight invincible for a brief time, I presume to make it so you could pass the mission, but its so immersion breaking you see and hear many missiles hit you and your wingman but you take no damage at all. I would have prefered you changed the SAM to an easier to deal with like an SA-3, SA-6 or SA-8, and maybe lower its inteligence? I mean something thats both doable but at the same time challenging, so if you get hit you indeed get damage, but thats not the machine gun of missiles that SA-10 currently is in DCS.

After that the second problem comes... You get 4 Mig-29 pursuing you and you are told to go to Kutaisi because they have a SAM battery there to help you out. It is a MIM23 Hawk battery that must be on its lowest intelligence because it is nearly useless. The First time i got there I passed over Kutaisi and as told, turned around to defend... well i was surrounded by 4 MiG-29s as the SAM battery didnt take any MiG down, and well I was killed by the enemy jets.

The second time around I ignored the message about turning around and defending and instead went straight to the Carrier after flying over Kutaisi, that went better but the Hawk battery took ages to shoot al planes, they fired one missile at a time and waited ages in between shots.

So TLDR the enemy battery is a merciless killer that fires an almost infinte barrage of missiles at you, so much that you had to make us invincible so the mission was doable and at the same time the SAM battery over Kutaisi is useless and if you do what you are told you go right into a trap, that ends up breaking the immersion of the mission and is a bit of a let down after such an incredible campaign. Because it is night a mission with NVG it would have been awesome to see a big barrage of missiles firing and also some scripted AAA shots and the MiGs direction that look great on NVG, to increase the cinematic effect. Would have been a nice light show.

I play on DCS 2.8.1.34667.2 stable attached are both TacView Files, the one where I turned around and got swarmed by 4 MiGs, and the other where I simply went to the carrier.

Regards, Elendil

Tacview-20230107-082034-DCS-Mission 10 Camp 2 SC.zip.acmi Tacview-20230106-191028-DCS-Mission 10 Camp 2 SC.zip.acmi

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Hi

Thanks for your thoughts.
Yes the SAM attack directly after killing Snake was scripted to surprise and increase tension just after you think your done. 
SH2 was scripted a long time ago. During this time believe it or not the SAMs at the air base have been too aggressive then not fire at all and now as you say a little slow. It all relates to  changes of AI behaviour that occur from time to time with EDs updates. Have had to change them a number of times over the years. 
Thanks for that, some good points  and will give them some consideration. 👍

Badger633

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I just finished the campaign on the latest open beta 2.8.2.35759. Everything played out well for me. The SAMs after whacking Snake gave me quite a scare but no hits. Then came another "cleared hot on Snake" message that I ignored and a second later I was directed to return to the Stennis. I turned over Kutaisi to face just one MiG that had gotten through and I could dispatch with a Sidewinder.

Thank you very much for the campaign, I enjoyed it and its predecessor a lot. Very good assortment of missions and highly immersive. I'm looking forward to play the one or other mission again and will set my eye on your other Hornet campaigns, Badger633.

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Added track file.

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26 minutes ago, blaster182 said:

I just finished the campaign on the latest open beta 2.8.2.35759. Everything played out well for me. The SAMs after whacking Snake gave me quite a scare but no hits. Then came another "cleared hot on Snake" message that I ignored and a second later I was directed to return to the Stennis. I turned over Kutaisi to face just one MiG that had gotten through and I could dispatch with a Sidewinder.

Thank you very much for the campaign, I enjoyed it and its predecessor a lot. Very good assortment of missions and highly immersive. I'm looking forward to play the one or other mission again and will set my eye on your other Hornet campaigns, Badger633.

 

Hi

Thanks for the kind words.

Will take a look why you had that additional 'cleared hot on Snake'. Not sure what happened there? Where were you exactly when you got the message?

Incidentally have just issued a major update of the free Serpent's Head Campaign, now fully voiced by actors. 🙂👍

The follow on Campaign to the Serpent's Head 2 is Rise of the of the Persian lion, hope you enjoy.

Badger633

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On 1/29/2023 at 8:30 PM, Badger633 said:

Hi

Thanks for the kind words.

Will take a look why you had that additional 'cleared hot on Snake'. Not sure what happened there? Where were you exactly when you got the message?

Incidentally have just issued a major update of the free Serpent's Head Campaign, now fully voiced by actors. 🙂👍

The follow on Campaign to the Serpent's Head 2 is Rise of the of the Persian lion, hope you enjoy.

Badger633

I've added the track file to my previous post. Not sure if it helps given the replay issues of DCS.

I'll check out your updated Serpent's Head campaign for sure, it's great that you're still improving it! And then on to  the Rise of the Persian Lion 🙂

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23 minutes ago, blaster182 said:

I've added the track file to my previous post. Not sure if it helps given the replay issues of DCS.

I'll check out your updated Serpent's Head campaign for sure, it's great that you're still improving it! And then on to  the Rise of the Persian Lion 🙂

Thanks, yes track files are not great but will check it out. Tacview files are much better for later analysis, and much smaller.

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1 hour ago, Elendil78v said:

Oh I saw on today's patch you updated the mission, exited to see how it plays out now!, thanks for your hard work!

Hope you enjoy 🙂👍

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