sanc2775 Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 I recently decided to upgrade my system and of course it was this PC, but I would like to get some tips from the community, the question is My decision was correct?, the specification is down here. AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900 (12 cores, 70M B full cache, 4.7GHz maximum boost clock) 338-CCXY – 1 – Windows 11 Pro – 1 – NVIDIA® GeForce RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X™ LHR 490-BHBU - 1 – 64GB, 4×16GB, DDR4, 3466MHz, XMP 370-AGRQ – 1 – 2TB NVMe M.2 PCIe SSD (boot) + 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (storage) 400-BMPF – 1 – Dark side of the Moon Platinum-rated power supply 1000 W, Air-cooled processor and transparent side panel 321-BHEM – 1 - Realtek RTL 8822CE Wi-Fi 5 (2×2) MIMO 802.11ac Wireless LAN and Bluetooth 5.0 555-BGZS – 1 – Wired Multimedia Keyboard (US site) 580-AHTI – 1 – MS116AW 570-AATJ – 1 - Alienware Aurora R14 210-BBQD – 1.
SCHiZO Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 If you're wondering if it will run DCS well, it will. What kind of tips are you looking for? Overclocking? I wouldn't recommend to overclock as the Ryzen 5000's get pretty hot. I have a 5800X and I put it in ECO mode in the BIOS to keep it cool. Not sure if you can turn on ECO mode in your PC's BIOS since its an Alienware.
Daerchanar Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, SCHiZO said: If you're wondering if it will run DCS well, it will. What kind of tips are you looking for? Overclocking? I wouldn't recommend to overclock as the Ryzen 5000's get pretty hot. I have a 5800X and I put it in ECO mode in the BIOS to keep it cool. Not sure if you can turn on ECO mode in your PC's BIOS since its an Alienware. You shouldn't put it in ECO mode, unless you're really trying to save energy.
SCHiZO Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 I shaved about 15C-20C by putting my 5800X in ECO mode. It was hitting 85C+ without it, which AMD says is intended but I've always like my chips under 85C. I used PBO mode as well to get a bit of the performance lost back. I did not watch your video and do not intend to. OP - There is nothing wrong with putting your processor in ECO mode. I've had mine running in ECO mode and PBO 2.0 for over a year, no problems and cooler temps. You do lose a bit of peak performance but I figure its worth the loss of performance for cooler temps because both current/recent processors from AMD and Intel run much hotter than previous generations.
BitMaster Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 My experience is a bit different and I wouldn't call the 5000 series a hot chip, it's way easier to cool than most others currently available, from either party. My tip, use CURVE OPTIMIZER to under-volt your chip, it will run cooler and thus clock higher and it can hold the high clocks for longer. There are many YT videos about that topic. Basically you can do "per core" or "all cores". The difference is, "all cores" will use 1 value for all cores and "per core" will have separate values for each core. Per core can yield a better result but it takes longer to dial them all in, after you have found them values. I meanwhile prefer a negative 25 offset on all cores and the machine stays stable. I tried 27 and 28 on all but on of the cores doesn't like it, so I went back to 25 negative. When I initially did it per core, like 9 of 12 cores used negative 30 ( max value ) and the other two or three cores where 28 and 27 iirc, so 25 is a safe bet and it has showed to be working under high stress loads for months. What pays is a goood cooler, either a monster air cooler or an AIO 240 or bigger. That's the best you can do to let the chip do it's thing. Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
SCHiZO Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 ECO mode either undervolted my chip or limited its potential. Not sure which but it was easier than spending hours dialing it in in the BIOS. As for optimization I ran all cores at a negative curve of 15 as 30 was unstable and I eventually, after trial and error, found 15 to be adequate. This was done with PBO 2.0. I have a Noctua NH-U12A. Its not the beefiest cooler but its pretty nice and I wouldn't want one any larger or smaller. If I didn't have ECO mode or PBO running I would hit 90C+/- under load which to me is unacceptable despite AMD claiming that is as intended and no damage will be done to the processor.
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