ruprecht Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 OK let me see... it looks good to me. Are you certain that the multimon file you copied the second section from is named pit_camera+abris+shkval.lua and that file is in \Ka-50\Config\MonitorSetup? If not, then DCS could be reading the wrong file. What program did you use to edit the lua files? Otherwise I can't see a problem with it. Is your ABRIS screen set to the left or the right in your windows span? "graphics"] = { ["multiMonitorSetup"] = "pit_camera+abris+shkval", DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
S7_Viper Posted February 5, 2009 Author Posted February 5, 2009 I am sure that is where it comes from. That is supposed to have the shkval and ABRIS on the left non-widescreen
ruprecht Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 No, according to your files there the ABRIS and Shkval are on the right. If you want them on the left, you have to put the phantom on the right as follows: Viewports = { Center = { x = 1024; y = 0; width = 1680; height = 1050; viewDx = 0; viewDy = 0; aspect = 1.6; } } Shkval = { [b]x = 512;[/b] y = 0; width = 512; height = 768/2; } ABRIS = { [b]x = 0;[/b] y = 0; width = 512; height = 768; Let me know how that goes. Can you please post a screenshot of your windows display span settings, thanks. DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
IIIJG11 Reaper Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 ruprecht, As i see you are fairly well versed in the multi monitor set up, was wondering if you could give me a hand please, and the fact your a fellow Aussie. Currently using Vista 32, 1680x1050 main and a 1024x768 as the second monitor on the RIGHT, I have a 3rd monitor but just to get 2 going properly first would be nice. I have had it close a few times but just cant seem to get it right, and i get further away from it each time i dabble with it. Files as below: Viewports = { Center = { x = 840; y = 0; width = 1680; height = 1050; viewDx = 0; viewDy = 0; aspect = 16/10; } } Shkval = { x = 1680; y = 225; width = 512; height = 460; } ABRIS = { x = 2192; y = 0; width = 512; height = 768; } and the options LUA as follows: { ["cockpit"] = { ["mirrors"] = false, ["reflections"] = false, ["avionics"] = 4, ["russianHud"] = false, }, -- end of ["cockpit"] }, -- end of ["views"] ["difficulty"] = { ["padlock"] = false, ["easyRadar"] = false, ["enemies"] = true, ["setGlobal"] = true, ["immortal"] = false, ["geffect"] = "realistic", ["easyFlight"] = false, ["permitCrash"] = false, ["radio"] = false, ["tips"] = true, ["fuel"] = false, ["aftSwitching"] = false, ["cockpitLanguage"] = "english", ["units"] = "metric", ["externalViews"] = true, ["hud"] = false, ["myPlane"] = false, ["iconsTheme"] = "nato", ["map"] = true, ["weapons"] = false, ["allies"] = true, ["labels"] = true, }, -- end of ["difficulty"] ["audio"] = { ["wind"] = 100, ["radio"] = 100, ["musicEn"] = false, ["engines"] = 100, ["soundEn"] = true, ["effects"] = 100, ["music"] = 0, ["radioSpeech"] = true, ["warnings"] = 100, ["volume"] = 100, ["inCockpit"] = 100, ["mech"] = 100, ["subtitles"] = true, ["gui"] = 70, }, -- end of ["audio"] ["graphics"] = { ["multiMonitorSetup"] = "1camera", ["color"] = "32", ["heatBlr"] = 1, ["scenes"] = "medium", ["water"] = 2, ["fullScreen"] = true, ["visibRange"] = "Medium", ["aspect"] = 1.6, ["textures"] = 1, ["shadows"] = 1, ["display_mode"] = { ["avi"] = { ["bpp"] = 32, ["resolution"] = "640x480", ["full_screen"] = false, ["aspect"] = 1.333333333, ["height"] = 480, ["width"] = 640, }, -- end of ["avi"] }, -- end of ["display_mode"] ["effects"] = 3, ["lights"] = 2, ["haze"] = 1, ["terrPrld"] = "20", ["height"] = 1050, ["resolution"] = "3360x1050", ["civTraffic"] = 1, ["width"] = 3360, }, -- end of ["graphics"] } -- end of options Appreciate any help you can provide, I can manage multi million dollar jobs but can not set up multi monitors,,,lol:doh:
ruprecht Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 Reaper, that is exactly the same setup I have. You'll be able to copy word for word the config here: http://vaaf.net/wiki2/index.php5?title=Black_Shark_MultiMonitors#Vista_.28windowed.29 Join up with the VAAF while you're at it! DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
IIIJG11 Reaper Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 Thanks m8,,, As for the VAAF,,,well i would but i have been with JG11 for around 5 years now in IL2FB, an we are just getting our BS squad together now...Cheers:thumbup:
IIIJG11 Reaper Posted February 5, 2009 Posted February 5, 2009 Ok,,,its close,,, I will bring my camera home tomorrow and take a pic, and see if you can help me further if thats ok,,,Cheers...
S7_Viper Posted February 5, 2009 Author Posted February 5, 2009 Before I go into test the game and get it to work, I select the center option "As one large horizontal desktop (horizontal span)"
IIIJG11 Reaper Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Thanks Viper, but Vista hasnt got that ability,,:( But heres a few cropped pics so you can see and prehaps help me out. You can see that the cockpit is actually on the 2nd monitor aswell with no Arbris or S to be seen. A shot from inside and out.....Thanks again.:thumbup:
ruprecht Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Can you screenshot your windows display settings for me reaper? There's no reason yours shouldn't work exactly the same as mine - Vista32 with the config exactly as posted on the wiki there. Just like this: Are you guys using Notepad++ or similar, or windows notepad to edit the files? DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
IIIJG11 Reaper Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Ok m8. Think i best mention i am using 2 vid cards, non SLI, could this be my issue?. And yes m8 im using the correct editing tools for the files. Thanks again for your help i appreciate it a heap.:thumbup:
ruprecht Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 In my experience you'll get better results using both screens off a single card rather than one on each. It makes no sense, but it's the facts! I cna't see an issue with your setup, it should work. Maybe post the actual config files you're using to double check? DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
IIIJG11 Reaper Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 rgr,,as below: Viewports = { Center = { x = 1024; y = 0; width = 1680; height = 1050; viewDx = 0; viewDy = 0; aspect = 1.6; } } Shkval = { x = 3216; y = ; width = 512; height = 768/2; } ABRIS = { x = 2074; y = 0; width = 512; height = 768; } and Options: ["bpp"] = 32, ["resolution"] = "640x480", ["full_screen"] = false, ["aspect"] = 1.333333333, ["height"] = 480, ["width"] = 640, }, -- end of ["avi"] }, -- end of ["display_mode"] ["effects"] = 3, ["lights"] = 2, ["haze"] = 1, ["terrPrld"] = "20", ["height"] = 1050, ["resolution"] = "1680x1050", ["civTraffic"] = 1, ["width"] = 3728, }, -- end of ["graphics"] } -- end of options Gawd,,Pain in the arse ay?,,,sorry ruprecht
ruprecht Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 aaah.. ok. Here's how I calculate it: If you want the excel, send me your email address in a PM. DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
ruprecht Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) rgr,,as below: Viewports = { Center = { x = 1024; y = 0; width = 1680; height = 1050; viewDx = 0; viewDy = 0; aspect = 1.6; } } Shkval = { x = 3216; y = ; width = 512; height = 768/2; } ABRIS = { x = 2074; -- 2704 y = 0; width = 512; height = 768; } ["aspect"] = 3.55048 and Options: ["bpp"] = 32, ["resolution"] = "640x480", ["full_screen"] = false, ["aspect"] = 1.333333333, ["height"] = 480, ["width"] = 640, }, -- end of ["avi"] }, -- end of ["display_mode"] ["effects"] = 3, ["lights"] = 2, ["haze"] = 1, ["terrPrld"] = "20", ["height"] = 1050, ["resolution"] = "1680x1050", ["civTraffic"] = 1, ["width"] = 3728, }, -- end of ["graphics"] } -- end of options Gawd,,Pain in the arse ay?,,,sorry ruprecht try that. there are 2 "aspect" directives - one inside the "avi" container which you shouldn't touch, the other inside the main graphics container which you should set to (total width incl phantom)/(total height) Note that using the big centre with small abris, you won't be able to see the multiplayer menu icons at hte bottom. You'll have to set your main screen to 1280x768 if you want to play MP. Like this: Edited February 6, 2009 by ruprecht DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
ruprecht Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 I've uploaded the excel file to the VAAF wiki: http://vaaf.net/wiki2/index.php5?title=Image:BS_monitorsetup.xls All care taken, no responsibility accepted. Please report any bugs. 1 DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
IIIJG11 Reaper Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Thanks m8,,, I feel like a complete Dick,,,:cry: Your patience has been great..:thumbup:
ruprecht Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 but does it work now? pic! DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
S7_Viper Posted February 6, 2009 Author Posted February 6, 2009 Mine doesnt... it should not be this hard... I am about to give up and just use my shiny new widescreen. I have never had one before, I think I should be just happy with what I have.
Flash1606687761 Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 Yup.. I gave up. It was a 'nice to have' that just doesn't work. It's all a compromise at the moment.
aceflier Posted February 6, 2009 Posted February 6, 2009 (edited) Ruprecht..... I followed your instructioins to the "T" and my black shark crashes when i try and load a mission with a dxrenderer.dll error. I use vista a 1680x1050 "left monitor" 1920x1080 "main". Put the 1680 "phantom" and I get this error. To much combined resolution? I've seen people on Sim HQ get it working but mine just crashes any suggestions? Edited February 6, 2009 by aceflier [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ruprecht Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 ace, there's no reason that's not possible. You can't use fullscreen in vista, check out the excel posted above and that will give you some idea of what you need to do. If you've exhausted all your own efforts, post the monitorsetup and your config, as well as a screenshot of your windows display settings and your specs, and I'll try to help. There's no prescription, you have to understand what the config is doing. It's not hard, just take the time to try to understand what the numbers mean. cheers DCS Wishlist: | Navy F-14 | Navy F/A-18 | AH-6 | Navy A-6 | Official Navy A-4 | Carrier Ops | Dynamic Campaign | Marine AH-1 | Streaming DCS sometimes:
aceflier Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) ace, there's no reason that's not possible. You can't use fullscreen in vista, check out the excel posted above and that will give you some idea of what you need to do. If you've exhausted all your own efforts, post the monitorsetup and your config, as well as a screenshot of your windows display settings and your specs, and I'll try to help. There's no prescription, you have to understand what the config is doing. It's not hard, just take the time to try to understand what the numbers mean. cheers Sure here is my files Description = '2test' Viewports = { Center = { x = 1680; y = 0; width = 1920; height = 1080; viewDx = 0; viewDy = 0; aspect = 1.777; } } Shkval = { x = 4440; y = 0; width = 840; height = 1050/2; } ABRIS = { x = 3600; y = 0; width = 840; height = 1050; } Now the options lua... options = { ["views"] = { ["cockpit"] = { ["mirrors"] = false, ["reflections"] = false, ["avionics"] = 3, ["russianHud"] = false, }, -- end of ["cockpit"] }, -- end of ["views"] ["difficulty"] = { ["padlock"] = false, ["easyRadar"] = false, ["enemies"] = true, ["setGlobal"] = false, ["immortal"] = false, ["geffect"] = "realistic", ["easyFlight"] = false, ["permitCrash"] = true, ["radio"] = false, ["tips"] = true, ["fuel"] = false, ["aftSwitching"] = false, ["cockpitLanguage"] = "english", ["units"] = "imperial", ["externalViews"] = true, ["hud"] = false, ["myPlane"] = true, ["iconsTheme"] = "nato", ["map"] = true, ["weapons"] = false, ["allies"] = true, ["labels"] = true, }, -- end of ["difficulty"] ["audio"] = { ["wind"] = 100, ["radio"] = 100, ["musicEn"] = false, ["engines"] = 100, ["soundEn"] = true, ["effects"] = 100, ["music"] = 50, ["radioSpeech"] = true, ["warnings"] = 100, ["volume"] = 100, ["inCockpit"] = 100, ["mech"] = 100, ["subtitles"] = true, ["gui"] = 50, }, -- end of ["audio"] ["graphics"] = { ["multiMonitorSetup"] = "2test", ["color"] = "32", ["heatBlr"] = 0, ["scenes"] = "medium", ["water"] = 3, ["fullScreen"] = false, ["visibRange"] = "Medium", ["aspect"] = 4.888888, ["textures"] = 2, ["shadows"] = 1, ["display_mode"] = { ["avi"] = { ["bpp"] = 32, ["resolution"] = "640x480", ["full_screen"] = false, ["aspect"] = 1.333333333, ["height"] = 480, ["width"] = 640, }, -- end of ["avi"] }, -- end of ["display_mode"] ["effects"] = 3, ["lights"] = 2, ["haze"] = 1, ["terrPrld"] = "20", ["height"] = 1080, ["resolution"] = "1920x1080", ["civTraffic"] = 1, ["width"] = 5280, }, -- end of ["graphics"] } -- end of options Qx6700 @3.6 2xgtx 260 core 216 (this happens with or withought sli) 4gb ddr2 in windows i have main display at 1920x1080 second at 1680x1050----> moved to left in windows. Lost as why this doesnt work I spent late last night working on it and about 2 hours today very frustrating. Edit... If i change my total res to 3600 it will load but of course its not right. :( Edited February 7, 2009 by aceflier [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
IIIJG11 Reaper Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Ruprecht, Unfortunatley I am still in the same boat, thought you had pointed out my obvious issue, but i still have the same problem with the main screen just extended onto the 2nd Monitor. Following all the principals, i just cant understand why this continues to just expand the main screen onto the 2nd monitor with no A or S to be seen.....I can understand you would be frustrated by now, Im not one to give up because i have had it close when i was using my 36" as my main and the 21 as the second monitor, seems i have gotten further away using the 21" as main and a 17" as a 2nd. Aggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh,,just wanna smash it....
aceflier Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) Ok using Ruprecht instructions I've got it working at 1024 res on my native 1680x1050 2nd display. 1680+1680+1920=To much for black shark and probly any graphic cards to handle. 1024+1024+1920=Slow frames with 16XAF 16XQAA Will try 8xAF and 8XAA and report back ___________________________________ After further testing i figured out that force Alternate frame rendring 2 on dcs.exe in nvidia control panel was causing my slow down. Changing this back to nvidia recomended has solved my slow frames now its as smooth as single montor. :) Next I will try and go back to my native 1680x1050 as that may have been the cause of my crashing. Fingers crossed Edited February 7, 2009 by aceflier [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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