Zeros Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 Goodmorning fellow simmers I have a question.Am setting a simple SEAD mission using the SKYNET script and assing a pair of AV-8B's to engage a specific SAM site(SA-6's).I gave the Harriers waypoints route with altitude of 400 ft (to avoid detection).No matter the set waypoint altitude Harriers keeps a 1600 ft lowest in route altitude.So what gives?AI is unable to fly below 1600 ft?.PS. Using the Syria map for this mission and the route is on Cyprus island where most of the terrain is flat. Thank you in advance ASUS ROG STRIX B360 - Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz - HyperX Fury DDR4-2666MHz 32GB - Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Windforce 8 GB - SSD 1 TB HOTAS - Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Modules FC3 - AJS37 Grippen - AV-8B Harrier - C-101 Aviojet - FA-18C Hornet - F-14B Tomcat - F-16A Viper - M-2000C Mirage - Supercarrier
IanC58 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, Zeros said: Goodmorning fellow simmers I have a question.Am setting a simple SEAD mission using the SKYNET script and assing a pair of AV-8B's to engage a specific SAM site(SA-6's).I gave the Harriers waypoints route with altitude of 400 ft (to avoid detection).No matter the set waypoint altitude Harriers keeps a 1600 ft lowest in route altitude.So what gives?AI is unable to fly below 1600 ft?.PS. Using the Syria map for this mission and the route is on Cyprus island where most of the terrain is flat. Thank you in advance agl or msl set in the harriers waypoints in ME? 74_Fox
Zeros Posted April 13, 2023 Author Posted April 13, 2023 6 hours ago, IanC58 said: agl or msl set in the harriers waypoints in ME? Both. When set on msl the aircraft holds about 2100ft and when in agl about 1600ft. The funny part is that on this example the harrier must take off and proceed to the given waypoint while on another mission where the harrier spawn on mid air they spawn aproxiemetly at 300ft and start immediately accend to 600ft trying to mask the ground (but i can recall what set altitude is on agl or msl) and trying the other way around ist just climbs tou 1600ft. ASUS ROG STRIX B360 - Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz - HyperX Fury DDR4-2666MHz 32GB - Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Windforce 8 GB - SSD 1 TB HOTAS - Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Modules FC3 - AJS37 Grippen - AV-8B Harrier - C-101 Aviojet - FA-18C Hornet - F-14B Tomcat - F-16A Viper - M-2000C Mirage - Supercarrier
IanC58 Posted April 13, 2023 Posted April 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Zeros said: Both. When set on msl the aircraft holds about 2100ft and when in agl about 1600ft. The funny part is that on this example the harrier must take off and proceed to the given waypoint while on another mission where the harrier spawn on mid air they spawn aproxiemetly at 300ft and start immediately accend to 600ft trying to mask the ground (but i can recall what set altitude is on agl or msl) and trying the other way around ist just climbs tou 1600ft. if you want to upload the mission here ill have a look my end? 74_Fox
Zeros Posted April 14, 2023 Author Posted April 14, 2023 Goodmorning IanC58 Thank you very much for your offer. I made some trial tests on my mission and here is what i've got.First of all the mission profile is SEAD from a pair of AI AV-8B's set Veteran skills.They are suppose to take of from an airfield and conduct a low level profile flight to a target area (Target area consists of 2 groups of SA-6's and one group of EW Radar).Points are: MSL is the proper altitude set for low level flights,tho there is a catch.If a group that will perform the mission includes group activates....(lasing,low level flight,etc)....the first WP after take off must be place far...far away from the engaged/detection area of target.They have to rendezvous first before proceed to the group activate.In my case is the low level flight where the flight leader flew at 1600 to 1900ft....(despite the fact that there was never set flight plan to such an altitude)....until his No2 came to rendezvous.In case of someone places their group to spawn in mid air all of the above dont matter. Tasking.Although the mission is a SEAD mission tasking the group as SEAD is a bad idea.The thing is that for some reason flight leader and the rest of the group brake the rule of low flight and accent to an altitude of 2000ft way berofe the firing range of their weapons,they get detect by the SAM's site and they just jettison their weapon trying to evade fire. CAS is the trick.Task the group as CAS and on the last/nearest point to the target set a trigger of "attack group/unit" and that's it. Formation.Not usefull.I set a formation trigrer (close group-line abreast) and the flight leader kept flying above the set altitude which it resulted been detect jettison his weapon to evade and consequently failed to proceed with the mission task.No2 kept a low flight profile and proceeded tasking. Those are my finding to anyone is interest. Thanks IanC58 for his insight. Thanks man i appreciate. ASUS ROG STRIX B360 - Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-9400F CPU @ 2.90GHz - HyperX Fury DDR4-2666MHz 32GB - Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Windforce 8 GB - SSD 1 TB HOTAS - Thrustmaster Hotas Warthog Modules FC3 - AJS37 Grippen - AV-8B Harrier - C-101 Aviojet - FA-18C Hornet - F-14B Tomcat - F-16A Viper - M-2000C Mirage - Supercarrier
IanC58 Posted April 14, 2023 Posted April 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Zeros said: CAS is the trick.Task the group as CAS and on the last/nearest point to the target set a trigger of "attack group/unit" and that's it. Yep that's the secret really, break the mission into segments as in Takeoff/RV-Hold/Ingress then assign the role and targets then Egress/Re-fuel as required/RTB Regards 1 74_Fox
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