Captain Orso Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 Okay, the issue is not specifically how many radios an aircraft has, but how many PTT's it uses. The AH-64D Apache has five radios(!!), but only one PTT button - brilliant! The F/A-18C Hornet has two radios and two PTT buttons (not including encrypted radio) - meh whatchagonnado. The A-10C 2 had three Radios and three PTTs - almost like having one phone for person you know. The issue is, up until now, using SRS, I could create a profile per aircraft and assign only one button per PTT the aircraft actually has. So for the Apache I only have one PTT defined, but for the A-10 I have three. That meant that two buttons not used as PTT's in the A-10 are free to be used for something else in the Apache, like switching the mic from one radio to another upward or downward through the list. With DCS VOIP, to accommodate the A-10's 3 PTT buttons, I have to assign these buttons under VOIP controls, but if I'm flying the Apache, they still must be assigned even if they cannot come to use!! That is a tremendous waist, plus if forces me to find completely irrational solutions to problems I didn't have before On top of all that, I use at least two buttons/switches as modifiers on nearly all aircraft, but on some aircraft I actually use more(!!). The issue, even though these switches/buttons are know through the controls of the aircraft I'm flying, VOIP had no idea they are defined. So when I assert on of these aircraft-defined modifiers and press one of the buttons defined as a PTT in VOIP, instead of DCS doing what I have defined in the controls for that aircraft, it openes the PTT in VOIP(!!) and that's not right! So I have go look at every aircraft I own, find which modifiers is has assigned and add ALL these to VOIP--even though they will NEVER be used within the context of VOIP--so that VOIP knows to ignore buttons/switches being asserted while these modifiers are also asserted. DCS KNOWS which aircraft I'm flying and can easily look to see which--if any--modifiers that aircraft is using, and have VOIP ignore anything being pressed along with the aircraft's modifiers, unless explicitly assigned under VOIP controls. That would be completely reasonable IMHO. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
rob10 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 I'd just like to have a PTT that worked for all the radios in a plane with the option to just select the desired radio like SRS (rather than a separate PTT for each radio). 1
Captain Orso Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 1 hour ago, rob10 said: I'd just like to have a PTT that worked for all the radios in a plane with the option to just select the desired radio like SRS (rather than a separate PTT for each radio). That depends on the aircraft. As I stated above, the Apache has this. You have one PTT button. You select the radio, and press PTT to speak over the selected radio. I suppose you could write VOIP to work like the Apache in ever aircraft, but then you'd run into conflicts, like what if you change the active radio in-cockpit and change it to a different radio in VOIP. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
rob10 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Captain Orso said: That depends on the aircraft. As I stated above, the Apache has this. You have one PTT button. You select the radio, and press PTT to speak over the selected radio. I suppose you could write VOIP to work like the Apache in ever aircraft, but then you'd run into conflicts, like what if you change the active radio in-cockpit and change it to a different radio in VOIP. I am primarily in the Hornet and basically in SRS (which I believe reflects IRL apparently it does not, see post below) you select which radio you want to transmit on, and set the frequency (in the aircraft) and SRS tracks which you radio you have selected (and the frequency it is set to) and the PTT button transmits on that radio/frequency until you select a different radio. Not really that complex since SRS and the cockpit are synchronized to which radio is active and changing one changes the other. Activating the "AI" comm's pop up selection menus are controlled separately and independently to this (except they use the same in cockpit frequencies) since there is no need for crossover between them. Edited October 23, 2023 by rob10
Captain Orso Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 The Early Access Manual only says: Communications, COMM1 - COMM2 - MIDS A - MIDS B. This is a four-position switch that controls transmission over the four radios. • Forward. Transmit over COMM1. • Aft. Transmit over COMM2. • Down. Transmit over MIDS A. • Up. Transmit over MIDS B. Where is the PTT switch to be found? When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
BarTzi Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 9 hours ago, rob10 said: I am primarily in the Hornet and basically in SRS (which I believe reflects IRL) you select which radio you want to transmit on, and set the frequency (in the aircraft) and SRS tracks which you radio you have selected (and the frequency it is set to) and the PTT button transmits on that radio/frequency until you select a different radio. Not really that complex since SRS and the cockpit are synchronized to which radio is active and changing one changes the other. Activating the "AI" comm's pop up selection menus are controlled separately and independently to this (except they use the same in cockpit frequencies) since there is no need for crossover between them. SRS does not reflect RL here, as the real jet has multiple PTT keys. 1
Captain Orso Posted October 23, 2023 Author Posted October 23, 2023 That is not the question. There was a statement that the Hornet has a PTT key. I'm asking where that is documented and where it is in the cockpit. When you hit the wrong button on take-off System Specs. Spoiler System board: MSI X670E ACE Memory: 64GB DDR5-6000 G.Skill Ripjaw System disk: Crucial P5 M.2 2TB CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D PSU: Corsair HX1200 PSU Monitor: ASUS MG279Q, 27" CPU cooling: Noctua NH-D15S Graphics card: MSI RTX 3090Ti SuprimX VR: Oculus Rift CV1
rob10 Posted October 23, 2023 Posted October 23, 2023 7 hours ago, BarTzi said: SRS does not reflect RL here, as the real jet has multiple PTT keys. Thanks, I did not realize that.
BarTzi Posted October 24, 2023 Posted October 24, 2023 13 hours ago, Captain Orso said: That is not the question. There was a statement that the Hornet has a PTT key. I'm asking where that is documented and where it is in the cockpit. On the throttle. 7 hours ago, rob10 said: Thanks, I did not realize that. No problem. It's a 4-way switch. I believe SRS added that functionality for people who don't have those available on their hotas system.
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