CPS_Bomber Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hello Everyone! My first post here, so pleasure to meet you all :thumbup: A friend and I are getting into formation aerboatics using LockOn (we're still using the original LockOn patched to v1.02 rather than Flaming Cliffs as my friend does not have this yet...). We've been trying to record tracks of our flights so examine our performance, but the playback of the tracks is not of the best quality :cry: So I'm wondering if any of you can give us a few tips on how to improve things in multiplayer? OK, we can connect to each other over the internet OK (we've tried setting up a LAN connection at my place, but just can't get my two PC's to see each other - even though we have no problems with the IL-2 series, Strike Fighters, Flight Simulator etc). Using Internet connection either of us can host or be client. When we fly, we seem to suffer from very jerky and over exaggerated movements when taxiing and braking on the ground both when making the flight and when reviewing the recorded track... if I look at my friend he lurches forward many meters (sometimes as much as twice his own aircraft length) and then springs backwards a few times the same distance behind his parking spot before coming to rest when using wheel brakes, even though from in his cockpit looking at me its all nice and smooth. The reverse happens when he looks at me from his cockpit. When we're up in the air, things aren't so bad when we're making the flight, but when we look at the recorded track after the flight, it looks awful. With just me making the track recording, my friends aircraft is jumping around all over the place when we replay. His smoke trails are pulsing too - not smooth flowing like my own. Also, his control surfaces don't move, but the canopy, speedbrake and landing gear seems to animate OK... But when he records the track, it's the other way around. My aircraft if having a fit with pulsing smoke and very little control animations, while his is smooth as silk! We have tried testing all the available connection speeds offered in the multiplayer setup screens, but none seem to give stable results. Eventually when we get our routine completed we'd like to make a proper film of it, but this just won't happen with the track results we're getting at the moment! When we fly off-line and make a track, the recording is fine. Some tech stuff for you: My main PC is - Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz, 2GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce 8500GT with a total video RAM of 1267MB, Windows Vista 32bit with full updates applied, Dx10. Saitek X52Pro, Saitek ProPedals, Saitek Throttle Quadrant, Saitek Pro Gamer Command Unit. All controllers are Saitek SST software programmed. The second PC (which works over the internet through the same router with ethernet cable but refuses to connect via LAN just for LockOn) is - Intel Pentium4 @2.66GHz, 2.5GB RAM, Nvidia GeForce FX5200 with 128MB RAM, Windows XP 32bit with full updates applied, Dx9c. Saitek X45 using Saitek SST software. Internet - Broadband, 100Mbps. Orange Livebox dsl modem/router is an Inventel DV4210-WU, wired connection to the internet, not wireless. Second PC is wired to the router via ethernet cable. Avast antivirus installed on both machines. Windows firewall used. TCP/UDP ports added to firewall/router for LockOn. As a comparison, we can use IL-2 1946 trouble free. We can connect to each other with the above PC's via internet or LAN, either directly via IP or through Hyperlobby. All tracks recorded are fine too, no lag during play even when large numbers of aircraft are present and custom skins are used. We can also use Ventrillo comms on both machines too if we join in with other games over Hyperlobby. Thankyou all very much for your time in reading this, and thankyou too in advance for any information & tips you may be able to pass on our way! Happy flying & clear skies to you all Rob CPS_Bomber i7 8700 3.20GHz, Win10 Home, 64GB RAM, RTX 3090Ti, Quest2 VR, Virpil VFX/Alpha/Mongoose/Warbird sticks, Virpil throttle + panels, x2 Saitek quadrants, Saitek Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Gamer Command Unit, Voice Attack+VIACOM Pro, TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Crunch Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Hi Bomber, Sounds like a latency issue for sure. It's too bad you can't get lan to work as that would for sure be faster. Here's is what I can recommend. -Always use 128KB/128KB to connect as the client. -Disable all unnecessary programs possible while playing, including anti-virus. I use Alcrity to automate this. -Get your friend to upgrade to Flaming Cliffs. It's only $15! Available here. -Doesn't sound possible as you are both using the same router, but you may experience a better Internet connection if disconnect the router and plug straight into your modem. -Try turning down some graphic settings. Especially Scenes as they are a FPS killer and will introduce lag in MP. Try low scenes. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPS_Bomber Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 Crunch, thanks for the reply Sir! Been searching for useful info in various forums to help on this. Interesting to see about the connection speed as the *client*. We had been making this as the connection for both machines, so thats something else to test & check :joystick: Checked the link for Alcrity and have d/loaded. Will try this too! :thumbup: Already custom tweaked the graphic settings on both machines, but will certainly give the scenes a knock-back to *low* on my PC (think they're already set as that on the XP machine, but will have to check next time its fired up). Not quite sure about the modem/router suggestion (networking and the like is still a bit of a brainacher to me). The kit I've got is a *Livebox*, an all-in-one job with 2 ethernet cable sockets. No#1 goes from my PC to the Livebox, while No#2 is taken with the cable from my XP machine. I have no idea how or even if its possible to bypass the router. $15 for FC is a good deal. Think there'll be some arm twisting going on next time I see Chris! Very interested in giving LAN another go after seeing you say it would be faster for sure. Do you use LAN yourself at all Crunch? If so, got any tips and things to look out for in getting it all set up in LockOn? Thanks very much for your help so far! Best regards Rob CPS_Bomber i7 8700 3.20GHz, Win10 Home, 64GB RAM, RTX 3090Ti, Quest2 VR, Virpil VFX/Alpha/Mongoose/Warbird sticks, Virpil throttle + panels, x2 Saitek quadrants, Saitek Pro Pedals, Saitek Pro Gamer Command Unit, Voice Attack+VIACOM Pro, TrackIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Crunch Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Already custom tweaked the graphic settings on both machines, but will certainly give the scenes a knock-back to *low* on my PC (think they're already set as that on the XP machine, but will have to check next time its fired up). Scences are set by the server machine and will override the client settings. Not quite sure about the modem/router suggestion (networking and the like is still a bit of a brainacher to me). The kit I've got is a *Livebox*, an all-in-one job with 2 ethernet cable sockets. No#1 goes from my PC to the Livebox, while No#2 is taken with the cable from my XP machine. I have no idea how or even if its possible to bypass the router. No not possible as both machines are using the router. Do you use LAN yourself at all Crunch? If so, got any tips and things to look out for in getting it all set up in LockOn? CPS_Bomber Sorry, no I haven't. Actually you shouldn't have lag really as both machines are on the same internet connection, same IP etc. I am thinking the fact the Pentium 4 machine is older might be the issue. Also, check out the Tacview tool for analyzing flights. Glad I could help. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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