Mission 13 AA over Pshada

[VsetciPokapu]

Hi, I´ve got stuck at M13 AA over Pshada. You +1 have to fly quite low for some time covered by Mig-23s (in most cases I can survive the F-4s) and after that you should attack and destroy some AAs (part of group of vehicles with some tanks, M113 and stinger soldiers...)

Does somebody have some tips how to solve this? I´ve found this much more frustrating than Mission 7. There is almost no chance to be not shot down. I tried it million times staying low and fast, also staying really high. I was shot in 100% cases. Also firing S-5s from a long distance seems to be not the right way. Sometimes I saw some improvement in rearming to S-24s. But you can have only 4 of them and hit something from a distance which is safe for you is really hard.

Also I´ve found it quite hard to distinguish which vehicles in the group are the AAs.

Thanks for any advices.

 

Edited January 28, 2024 by VsetciPokapu

[SorelRo]

It's the AA accuracy that increased in the last few updates, they are way more accurate and it makes it much more difficult to deal with it, the only chance is to preflare, and go as fast as possible, but it's a matter of luck, I'll try to review it and put update some of the missions. 

 

Cheers, 

[VsetciPokapu]

Hi! Last couple of days Enigma server was full, so after few months I´ve tried to finally beat this mission. Unfortunately it is still impossible to make it. 4 stingerguys coupled with AAA with sniper capabilities easily neutralize you (whatever alt and speed you are flying), your wingman which is really useless here and at the and also your Mig-23s escort. For me the biggest problem are the stinger mandpads. It looks that If you can eliminate them somehow from a distance, you can deal with couple of AAA after that. But till now, I haven´t found any solution. I really don´t want to skip the mission so yesterday I tried to solve everything with one RN-28 nuke. And here is the funny thing in this most frustrating mission... I´ve managed to hit quite close the enemy with RN-28 and keep myself alive. Every village nearby was on fire and I´ve killed AND NOW HOLD ON...4 Stinger manpads!!! All of the other enemy armor was untouched:D So I´ve told myself - OK at least the damned stingerguys - so I´ve returned to the base, rearm for S-24 rockets to deal with the AAAs (which is the mission goal...). But after I´ve returned to the area of course I was shot down (not sure if by the F-5s which are patroling in the area, or by some armor from the ground). And about these F-5s...I was expecting some problem with them, but of course, you are not able the arm the AA missiles...

My suggestion for editing the mission in some future will be (if the AAA remain so precise):

- reduce the stingerguys from 4 to max. 2. And if it´s possible to reduce their ammo. Let´s say 2 stinger rocket for each guy.

- reduce the AAA from 4 (I think there are 4 AAAs) to 2

This way one will have at least some chance to survive the mission and little chance to succes the mission.

Cheers!

[Joe1978]

I have progressed through the entire campaign up to this mission. The issue persists here: four manpads with superhuman abilities, along with extremely precise AAA fire. Additionally, F4 and F5 effortlessly outmaneuver the Mig 23 and exclusively target you.

Our Mig21, equipped solely with rockets and lacking an AI as advanced as the enemy's, becomes an easy target.

The manpads seem to be the major issue; even set to a low skill level, they are exceedingly precise in DCS. Probably in this mision they are surely experts. 

[SorelRo]

You are right, I'm adjusting these as I update this campaign. Unfortunately, the new MANPADS that were re-done a few months ago by ED are way too precise and not susceptible to flares anymore. 

[Joe1978]

Thanks for replying. It's good to know that you're working on it. So far, the campaign is very interesting and I really enjoyed it.

 

[SorelRo]

1 hour ago, Joe1978 said:

Thanks for replying. It's good to know that you're working on it. So far, the campaign is very interesting and I really enjoyed it.

 

Thanks a lot, it is aging and needs more TLC.