Mission 2 Bugs and Challenges

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These I think are bugs... 

1) over half the voiceovers don't play... i would be flying around and suddenly notice i had missed a call to do something... as i would just catch the end of the text  (yes i was on the right channel)

2) -2 calls bingo, and will not be sent to tanker, and ultimately runs out of fuel and ejects

3) the tanker does not respond to any call on channel 4

4) E2D does not respond to picture requests on channel 3?

 

Game play 

Because for the majority of calls we don't seem to get any BRA or bullseye information "just geography", it's often quite difficult to orientate yourself towards an intercept ... and with no picture or bullseye calls from the e2D that makes for quite a difficult mission  

 

 

Edited April 26, 2024 by speed-of-heat

[Sandman Simulations]

59 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

These I think are bugs... 

1) over half the voiceovers don't play... i would be flying around and suddenly notice i had missed a call to do something... as i would just catch the end of the text  (yes i was on the right channel)

2) -2 calls bingo, and will not be sent to tanker, and ultimately runs out of fuel and ejects

3) the tanker does not respond to any call on channel 4

4) E2D does not respond to picture requests on channel 3?

 

Game play 

Because for the majority of calls we don't seem to get any BRA or bullseye information "just geography", it's often quite difficult to orientate yourself towards an intercept ... and with no picture or bullseye calls from the e2D that makes for quite a difficult mission  

 

 

 

Hi,

Thank you for your feedback.

1. I'll take a look what's wrong with voiceovers. Have worked fine before

2. & 3. Wingman should go to tanker if ordered if tanker is close enough. I'll take a look at this too. And is there a problem with frequency or what.

4. In this campaign DCS build-in AWACS is mostly silenced and there are only voiceover calls from AWACS operator. If DCS AWACS is operating on the same frequency it will fill the frequency with chatter about distant unimportant targets and talk over voiceovers. But you are right that in some points it would be very useful to get real time bullseye or BRA calls. It would be possible to set AWACS on some other frequency and player could tune to it when needed. But then you would miss voice overs. I need to think about that.

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thanks for looking at this, if you need anything from me let me know!  

 

[Sandman Simulations]

1 minute ago, speed-of-heat said:

thanks for looking at this, if you need anything from me let me know!  

 

Please let me know if you find these problems (voice overs etc.) from other missions too. I'll check those too but propably may miss something. And of course everything else you find. Unfortunately new bugs may rise after DCS updates when something under the hood is changed.

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I was not able to progress as I was also out of fuel... And no tanker so... I will try it again tomorrow to see if I can get round it

[Sandman Simulations]

13 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

I was not able to progress as I was also out of fuel... And no tanker so... I will try it again tomorrow to see if I can get round it

 

13 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

I was not able to progress as I was also out of fuel... And no tanker so... I will try it again tomorrow to see if I can get round it

I made my first tests and it seems that air-to-air voice overs are not working in mission two but they work in mission one. Weird because its made with the same method in both missions. I'm next going for mission 3 and trying to find the reason. 

Tanker in mission 2 is on right frequency and preset 4 is also right. But you are right it's not answering. Trying to find out why. 

You can fly the mission 2 without AAR and even your wingman can make it if you are not speeding too much. But of course you should have the tanker available anyway.

 

Edited April 27, 2024 by Sandman Simulations

[speed-of-heat]

I will try a max conserve profile and see where that gets me

[Sandman Simulations]

4 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

I will try a max conserve profile and see where that gets me

Same voiceover problem seems to be in mission 3. Propably in every mission

Chatter between Jester and player are "sound to all" so they work. All radio communication is radio transmissions transmitted from a designated zone. It has worked well but it seems that something has been changed so that it works only if player is inside that zone. If it's so it will be easy to fix but will take some time to get patch to ED to be published.

This still doesn't explain the tanker problem. 

[Sandman Simulations]

7 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

I will try a max conserve profile and see where that gets me

I was wrong. Voice and tanker are working normally at least in mission 4. I will also test rest of the missions. Problem isn't the radio transmission zone. Same transmission works in mission 4 and also in Flaming Sunrise campaign.

I did nothing but changed the zone radius and saved the mission again and now also mission 2 is working normally. Both voiceovers and also the tanker. Also wingman kindly takes heading to the tanker when ordered to. It can't be the zone radius so it may be just something wrong with the mission file and new save may have fixed it. I still keep looking if there are some other reasons.

[Sandman Simulations]

8 hours ago, speed-of-heat said:

I will try a max conserve profile and see where that gets me

Actually now there is something very weird. I have now tested half of the missions of e-shop version of the campaign and they are working. Including missions 2 and 3. Without any intervention.

Please report if you still have that problem in any of the missions. If so please tell also which exact voiceovers are not working.

 

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So for the tanker... He is working on button 4 on arc 159 but not 1on the arc 182...

Getting to the point where I lost VO I will report back

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I think the problem last time was that I was on channel 4 for the tanker on the 182 which means that as the vo for two Emirates fighter approaching comes up I don't get to hear it but I see it because I was going to refuel 

[Sandman Simulations]

13 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

I think the problem last time was that I was on channel 4 for the tanker on the 182 which means that as the vo for two Emirates fighter approaching comes up I don't get to hear it but I see it because I was going to refuel 

Thank you for this report. That might explain. 

About that awacs issue. Unofficially you might contact awacs by tuning to 300.0 MHz frequency. But as it causes player to miss voiceovers it's not on the kneeboard and actually I haven't even tested it. Because custom awacs can't give you real time BRAs, most important enemy and own units can be unrealistically checked from F10 map. Some compromise had to be done for playability

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15 minutes ago, Sandman Simulations said:

Thank you for this report. That might explain. 

About that awacs issue. Unofficially you might contact awacs by tuning to 300.0 MHz frequency. But as it causes player to miss voiceovers it's not on the kneeboard and actually I haven't even tested it. Because custom awacs can't give you real time BRAs, most important enemy and own units can be unrealistically checked from F10 map. Some compromise had to be done for playability

I must admit that's what I did for the 

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was check the F10, it show up there convienently

Interestingly enough this time -2 took off like a gazelle for the tanker and sucked it dry....so it just reeled the hose in and went home...

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6 minutes ago, speed-of-heat said:

I must admit that's what I did for the 

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MIG29

was check the F10, it show up there convienently

Interestingly enough this time -2 took off like a gazelle for the tanker and sucked it dry....so it just reeled the hose in and went home...

That may happen as those S-3s have very limited capacity and at the time of making this campaign there was no unlimited fuel option to give ai-units. I will include it also in this campaign when submitting next patch. If you also need to refuel yourself to prevent this you may either do it before your wingman or stop wingmans refueling by rejoin command. Unfortunately there is no option in DCS to ask wingmans fuel state

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i tried getting him to rejoin.. but he was off to the races.. .and wouldn't come back ... DCS's internal AI at its finest