cannot reproduce JTAC not responding to leader/Only to wingman

[vctpil]

Hi,

Mission :

Kola map - 4 F-16CM - Massun92 and SAMSitesAssetPack (objects only) - tracks attached

JTAC From Leader.trk :

1. Leader contact the JTAC - no answer

2. Leader contact AWACS - the JTAC respond

3. Leader contact JTAC - no answer

JTAC From Wingman.trk :

Wingman contact the JTAC - the JTAC respond

Personnal remark : I made the same test with the F/A-18C and the JTAC answer to leader and wingmans, so I suppose those mods have no influence on this bug (?).

Thanks to have a look,

Vincent

 

 

JTAC From Leader.trk JTAC From Wingman.trk

[vctpil]

To make it more difficult to understand : I able to contact the JTAC from wingman 2, 3 and 4 on the ground, but once in the air (after re-starting the mission), the JTAC does not answer!

[Lord Vader]

Hi @vctpil

46 minutes ago, vctpil said:

To make it more difficult to understand : I able to contact the JTAC from wingman 2, 3 and 4 on the ground, but once in the air (after re-starting the mission), the JTAC does not answer!

Are you using the comm switch to contact JTAC? Are you choosing the correct radio to do so? Sometimes this causes confusion between users.

Also, are you using the "Easy Communication" option for this mission?

I am asking this due to what you mention above.

[vctpil]

Hi Lord Vader,

Thanks for your reply.

Are you using the comm switch to contact JTAC?

I am using the HOTAS switch set on "Transmit Switch - UHF (call radio menu)"

Are you choosing the correct radio to do so?

Yes, the UHF. Selecting the channel or entering manually the frequency have the same result.

Also, are you using the "Easy Communication" option for this mission?

No.

Vincent.

[vctpil]

I made a test with a drone instead of a armored vehicle, and all aircrafts was able to contact the JTAC.

So, it seems that the problem is coming from the ground vehicles.

Vincent

[Lord Vader]

Hi again @vctpil, thanks for the replies.

Unfortunately, I don't have those mods installed so I couldn't test your track files.
However, I created my own simple mission with one target, JTAC and both the F-16C and F/A-18C. JTAC did reply to me as lead or as wingman on either aircraft.

You can try this mission on your side and see if it works: JTACtest.miz (feel free to edit it to your preference).

We did identify an issue a few days ago with some JTAC callsigns not working, but keep it "Darkstar" for now and try it out.

[vctpil]

Hi Lord Vader,

Tests made :

1. My mission with mod - JTAC ATGM HMMWV name change to Darknight :

     a. The JTAC answer to the leader on the ground, but not in the air (after a mission re-start)

     b. The JTAC answer to wingmans on the ground and in the air.

2. Same mission with all mods removed :

     a. very strange : the JTAC answer to the leader on the ground. After a re-start, I was able to contact him in the air, but he stop speaking in the middle of his message, and I was not able to contact him again. Seems like the JTAC disappear at a certain point.

     b. Same as the point 1.

3. Your mission JTACtest.miz : work perfectly with F-16 and F/A-18C.

 

I notice you were using the "FAC - Engage group". In my mission, it was "FAC - Assign Group". So, I edited my mission and use "FAC - Engage Group", and the result is the same as point 2.

Vincent

 

Edit : I fly a full mission to how it works, but the JTAC does not answer to the wingman aircraft as well. This bug seems to be inconsistent.

Edited May 21, 2024 by vctpil
More infos

[buur]

What is the distance to the JTAC? Must be smaller than 50nm

[vctpil]

The JTAC from the target? 2nm maximum.

[buur]

plane to the JTAC

[vctpil]

almost overhead.

I notice another "bug" that why I am thinking that there is a problem with the F-16.

When I start on ramp with the F-16, there is no message from the ATC. When I start with the F/A-18C, the ATC gives me the cleared for start-up.

If I call the JTAC from ground with the F/A-18C, he answer.

[vctpil]

Hi,

Just tested a JTAC with F-16 in Nellis in same conditions (hot start, same loading, sema JTAC, same frequency).

The JTAC work perfectly.

So, can the JTAC not answering be related to the map?

Vincent

Edited May 24, 2024 by vctpil