M01 Lazing Issue

[KingAhDaRIng]

Hi Badger,

Thanks for making these campaigns! Wanted in early to help with finding anything plus I couldn't wait to play it.

In M01, I lazed the target for Matrix when "Fire Lazer" was called and despite a success impact, I still got a Mission Fail as the bomb was dropping.

Is that user error or a potential bug?

[Badger633]

Hi, @KingAhDaRIng

Firstly make sure you are not running any mods.
You need to set your lazer to trigger and pull your trigger in fully when he says ‘fire lazer’. 
I have a Tips Video of this exercise. It is here. (Spoiler Alert for pilots who have not yet flown mission) there is a link below.  Make sure you follow as the video. If you get the problem again if you could send me the track that would be very useful. 
Thanks.
 

 

Edited May 22, 2024 by Badger633

[CH4Pz]

I got the same issue, i was 9 miles from target (too far?), and before the bomb landed i got mission failed, but matrix still hit it, and trident called hit, and matrix told me to continue lasing for 2nd run etc, but due to the fail, mission stopped. I also noticed he says "fire the laser" twice, almost like a glitch??

[Badger633]

Hi @CH4Pz

Could you send me a track please. Cannot understand why some but not all are getting this issue. Are you running any mods? Also are you carrying out the exercise as the tips video above?

When you successfully press the trigger Ford says something like “ Right, now all I need is to hold it” Did you get that? 

Spoiler

To be honest the wing will always hit the target as in DCS you cannot actually laze for an AI. So what has been done is to check you are actually lazing by sensing if you are pressing the trigger at the correct time.

Never had the problem myself as you can see on the tips video. A track will really help, thanks for the heads up, I will get it sorted.

 

[KingAhDaRIng]

Hi Badger,

What happened to me is the same as CH4Pz described. No Mods for me.

I was in an orbit pattern at 16k over target 3. I held the trigger when it said fire lazer. Kept holding through him saying fire lazer again. Then got mission fail.

The only thing I can think of is I did a test fire of the lazer to make sure I had how to do it correct as I usually auto lazer. Could a pre fire of a lazer a few minutes before matrix's run cause an issue?

[Badger633]

Hi @KingAhDaRIng 

Ok thanks, if you could get me a track that would be excellent. I also need to check ED has issued the latest version of the mission. Assume you have done things exactly as the tips video. 
Did Ford say “Ok now just need to hold it” when you pressed the trigger, this means the trigger press has been recognised. 
Thanks. 
You can send the track to badger633campaigns@gmail.com

[Cathnan]

I had exactly the same problem. My drops went well, but Matrix drop went to mission failed before the bomb impacted. I got the message to hold the trigger until it impacts right after the impact. The destroyer also called the hit and then the mission terminated. I have the trackfile attached as it apparently exceeds the size limit I can send through e-mail.

A bit of buddy time Mission 1 Laser Trigger not recognized.trk

[Badger633]

Hi @Cathnan

Thanks for that. Back at my rig on the weekend. Obviously latest update with issue may have caused a problem. 
Will find issue and get it fixed for next update. 

[KingAhDaRIng]

Hi @Badger633,

Same at Cathnan!

[Kurnass1977]

Same here.

First attempt fired the laser before the prompt to, so thinked as the possible issue. Try again following/waiting for the message with the same result

GL-01.trk

[Badger633]

@Kurnass1977 would you say your computer was low medium or high end. I only ask because I have a theory that if some computers if struggling sometimes miss things in the script. No proof of this but just a theory which would explain why some have a problem and some do not. Also are you in VR or in monitor.

Thanks it all helps get to the bottom of it. 

Edited May 23, 2024 by Badger633

[Kurnass1977]

The spec of my PC are.

i5-9600K @ 4.30Ghz/ Gigabyte RTX2070 Super 8Gb OC / 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX

No VR

'till now all run without problem and I've recently finished bot Cerberus North and Dominant Fury and never had a graphic or performence issue

I'll upgrade my PC but RL impact me adversely in this regard...

Hope that a solution can be sorted out, loved all your previous Campaign and I'm sure this last will be another winner

Edited May 24, 2024 by Kurnass1977

[Badger633]

Thanks @Kurnass1977. This issue will definitely be sorted and out in next update. I will let you know when I have the solution.

[CH4Pz]

22 hours ago, Badger633 said:

Hi @CH4Pz

Could you send me a track please. Cannot understand why some but not all are getting this issue. Are you running any mods? Also are you carrying out the exercise as the tips video above?

When you successfully press the trigger Ford says something like “ Right, now all I need is to hold it” Did you get that? 

  Hide contents

To be honest the wing will always hit the target as in DCS you cannot actually laze for an AI. So what has been done is to check you are actually lazing by sensing if you are pressing the trigger at the correct time.

Never had the problem myself as you can see on the tips video. A track will really help, thanks for the heads up, I will get it sorted.

 

So i didnt get the ford comment saying "now i just got to hold it", like in your video, just the 2 "fire the laser", immediately after he releases, but the laser is firing, as its flashing on the TGP. Im bout to try again, will try get a bit closer, see if it makes a difference.

As for the potato computer theory, im on a 13700kf, 3090 with 32gbs, so i doubt its that, i also have zero mods installed, as all i do is play campaigns.

[Badger633]

Hi @CH4Pz

Thanks for that. Interesting, if you did not get that message the script didn't pick up your trigger press, thus the fail. Regarding the potato theory it can be subtle and depending on what else is happening in the sim at that moment. Certainly happens a lot in A2A refuelling sometimes wing complies and sometimes not especially on a slower computer, not saying yours is. 
Are you using MT version, I always do. 
Finally do you have a double trigger on your joystick and both set up?

Back on rig later today so will investigate. Will let you know when fixed.

Thanks

[CH4Pz]

1 hour ago, Badger633 said:

Hi @CH4Pz

Thanks for that. Interesting, if you did not get that message the script didn't pick up your trigger press, thus the fail. Regarding the potato theory it can be subtle and depending on what else is happening in the sim at that moment. Certainly happens a lot in A2A refuelling sometimes wing complies and sometimes not especially on a slower computer, not saying yours is. 
Are you using MT version, I always do. 
Finally do you have a double trigger on your joystick and both set up?

Back on rig later today so will investigate. Will let you know when fixed.

Thanks

Yep, im using MT too (i really wish they'd make it default!), I just retried then, and he DOES say "just hold the trigger" but the mission has already failed at that point. As you can see in the track, when i look at the pod, the laser is firing too. I think i had both set up, i know i do have "2nd detent" set, not sure bout the other one, as im not sure what its used for, but i did try both. Actually now i think about it, maybe thats why he said "just hold it" after the fail?? but it seems like the lasers flashing from the start?? Heres the track anyways

 

EDIT: Just retried, holding only the 2nd press on trigger, same issue

greenline track.trk

Edited May 24, 2024 by CH4Pz

[Badger633]

Hi @CH4Pz that’s great thanks for that, most helpful. Let you know when fixed.

[Kurnass1977]

@Badger633 thanks for your answer!

I received too the messages, first to fire the laser and later to hold the trigger, but mission failed anyway as you can see in the track.

If you have some possible tips, I'll re-try ASAP, but think to have done all correctely

[Kurnass1977]

Try again,nothing...

Will wait news from you when possible

[Badger633]

@Kurnass1977 Sorry about this will keep you updated. 

[Badger633]

@Kurnass1977 @CH4Pz @Cathnan @KingAhDaRIng

Looks like unfortunately ED has not issued my latest mission 1 file. This could well be the problem. Will ensure it is corrected next update.

[Kurnass1977]

Thx for the info, will wait...

[KodiakVFA143]

Same issue, happy to see its not a ME problems

[Hawke81]

Just attempted the first mission and had the same issue. My drops went well, held orbit at 16000 and lased, got mission fail and 2 seconds later the bomb hit the target and I got the target hit message.

[Badger633]

Hi @Hawke81

Sorry about that. It would appear for some reason the script which picks up the trigger press is  for some people not reliable. So I have fixed it and it will be out in next update.

Difficult to predict as works for me every time and has not been a recent issue with testers.