Hootman9104 Posted May 22, 2024 Posted May 22, 2024 Setting up my CPG settings, following the training for employing the FCS in gunner position, I decided to verify/check my mapping as I went along. First step, the sight select. I also use Voiceattack, and while programming the Sight Select in the "Mission Grip", in game settings it copied the HOTAS settings over to "HOCAS" and "Collective Stick" with no problems. However VA noted that I was already using those commands, and when I searched "Sight Select" I noted that the same functions appear on the "Right Handgrip" and "TEDAC", but they are named differently but do they not perform the same function? Should not the settings in each copy over to each section in game control settings? The result is if you try to duplicate the keyboard and HOTAS settings on "Right Handgrip" and "TEDAC" to be the same as the others, it erases the prior settings in the other three. So basically we have two settings for the same functions? It's not THAT big a deal I guess, but it doesn't seem consistent. Should not one settings copy over to all 5 areas?
ED Team Raptor9 Posted May 22, 2024 ED Team Posted May 22, 2024 Not quite sure what the problem is that is being described, but to answer one of your questions, some controls on the TEDAC do indeed perform the same function regardless of whether the function is commanded on the cyclic/collective grips or on the TEDAC grips. They are still separate commands that may be configured for cockpit builders with separate switches and buttons, but that doesn't mean you need to configure both to use them in DCS. However, some functions perform slightly different logic depending on where they are commanded. Notably, if you action a weapon on the cyclic, only the cyclic trigger will be active. If you action a weapon on the left TEDAC grip, only the left TEDAC trigger will be active. Additionally, if the Pilot has actioned rockets, actioning rockets on the CPG cyclic will take control of the rockets in the CPG crewstation but actioning them on the left TEDAC grip will enter Cooperative rocket mode in both crewstations. Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head
Hootman9104 Posted May 23, 2024 Author Posted May 23, 2024 I was afraid I wasn't explaining it easily. Perhaps a screenshot. Do not these perform the same function? Since it's just a sight select, I don't think there is any difference in functions. So when set, in say, "Collective Stick", it copies over to "Hocas" and "Mission Grip", but not to "Right Handgrip" and "TEDAC". If you try to assign the same controls in those two, it erases the settings in the other three. Again, no big deal, but seems like it two different settings that do the same thing, setting in one should copy to the other 4?
ED Team Solution Raptor9 Posted May 23, 2024 ED Team Solution Posted May 23, 2024 2 hours ago, Hootman9104 said: Do not these perform the same function? Since it's just a sight select, I don't think there is any difference in functions. So when set, in say, "Collective Stick", it copies over to "Hocas" and "Mission Grip", but not to "Right Handgrip" and "TEDAC". If you try to assign the same controls in those two, it erases the settings in the other three. There are two separate Sight Select switches in the CPG cockpit: one is on the Collective Mission Grip, the other is on the TEDAC Right Handgrip. Both perform the same functions, but when you press one switch, you aren't pressing the other. Where the confusion is coming into play is that there isn't five switches, but the two switches are located within several category groupings. The HOCAS category includes the Cyclic Grip, Collective Mission Grip, and Collective Flight Grip, and all the switches/buttons on all three grips. The Collective category includes the Collective Mission grip and Collective Flight Grip, and all of the switches/buttons on those two grips. The Collective Mission Grip only includes the switches/buttons on that grip alone. So what you are seeing are three separate groupings of categorization, with the same switch shown in each category/sub-category. This is the same across all DCS modules. You may have the Left Console category, but you may select individual panels on the Left Console to narrow it down. The commands are still the same, it just changes how you are viewing the same commands. But in this case, you are viewing two separate switches across five different command categories. Afterburners are for wussies...hang around the battlefield and dodge tracers like a man. DCS Rotor-Head
Hootman9104 Posted May 23, 2024 Author Posted May 23, 2024 1 hour ago, Raptor9 said: There are two separate Sight Select switches in the CPG cockpit: one is on the Collective Mission Grip, the other is on the TEDAC Right Handgrip. Both perform the same functions, but when you press one switch, you aren't pressing the other. Where the confusion is coming into play is that there isn't five switches, but the two switches are located within several category groupings. The HOCAS category includes the Cyclic Grip, Collective Mission Grip, and Collective Flight Grip, and all the switches/buttons on all three grips. The Collective category includes the Collective Mission grip and Collective Flight Grip, and all of the switches/buttons on those two grips. The Collective Mission Grip only includes the switches/buttons on that grip alone. So what you are seeing are three separate groupings of categorization, with the same switch shown in each category/sub-category. This is the same across all DCS modules. You may have the Left Console category, but you may select individual panels on the Left Console to narrow it down. The commands are still the same, it just changes how you are viewing the same commands. But in this case, you are viewing two separate switches across five different command categories. Got it, thanks. As long as I know it's doing the same thing won't worry about it in Voiceattack programming.
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