average_pilot Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 (edited) I've noticed that at medium speeds, like 400 knots, it flies level with negative AoA. Is that normal? Thanks. Edited May 24, 2024 by average_pilot
Victory205 Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 Do you mean pitch attitude? If so, you can adjust the attitude on the AJB-7 using the little knob on the lower right side of the instrument to your liking. It’s just a reference. The AOA indicator is absolute and can’t be changed. It probably shows that at 400KIAS that you are flying at a positive AOA. Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
Solution Super Grover Posted May 24, 2024 Solution Posted May 24, 2024 The angle of attack reported in the F2 view is for the reference fuselage line. The incidence angle for the F-4E wings is 1°, and the thrust line of the engines is rotated 5.25° exhaust-down. These facts and additional aerodynamic effects can lead to negative values of the angle of attack for the fuselage reference line when flying fast or applying high thrust. 2 1 Krzysztof Sobczak Heatblur Simulations https://www.facebook.com/heatblur/
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 (edited) I'm pretty sure he means that if you switch to external view, the aircraft flies with a nose-down attitude even when flying perfectly level. I noticed that as well, and my guess is this is due to the -5 degree angle on the engine mounting? At higher altitude and cruise speed, the aircraft is indeed perfectly level while other aircraft fly with a slight nose-up attitude indeed due to AoA. I read somewhere this -5 degree angle is to make maintenance easier, but it might also be to make cruising at high altitude more efficient (aka with less drag)? *edit* sniped by Grover Edited May 24, 2024 by Raven (Elysian Angel) Spoiler Ryzen 9 5900X | 64GB G.Skill TridentZ 3600 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X570-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 960Pro 1TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero Pro Flight Trainer Puma | VIRPIL MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | Virpil CM3 throttle | Virpil CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | TPR rudder pedals OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings
Victory205 Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 My recollection is the thrust line was chosen to offset the location of the engines which are below the cg. You see this as a pitch down moment when poetic increased. To be sure for the OP, the aircraft is flying at a positive aerodynamic alpha value. For more fun on angle of incidence and pitch references, see “B-52” 2 Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
average_pilot Posted May 24, 2024 Author Posted May 24, 2024 47 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said: I'm pretty sure he means that if you switch to external view, the aircraft flies with a nose-down attitude even when flying perfectly level. My bad. I forgot to mention I was referring to the AoA value shown at the info bar. 51 minutes ago, Super Grover said: The angle of attack reported in the F2 view is for the reference fuselage line. I had no idea. I always assumed naturally it was for the wings. Now it makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. 1
Victory205 Posted May 24, 2024 Posted May 24, 2024 Now that you know, isn’t it time to change your name to “above_average_pilot”? 1 Fly Pretty, anyone can Fly Safe.
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