Advice for New PC Needed

[LucShep]

3 hours ago, Captain Chuck said:

This is build another offered: What do you all think about this compared the original in my first post? Does this motherboard have enough M.2 slots? I'm hoping for 3. Is this one just too low on VRAM. I don't do VR but I do Multipayer servers. 
 

1.  Intel Core I5-14600KF, frequency TurboVoost 5.3 Ghz, 14 cores and 20 threads;
2. Motherboard: MSI B760 PARKING РLUS WIFI DDR5;
3. CPU cooling: ID-COOLING ZOOM 240 XT V2;
4. RAM: DDR5 64GB;
5. Video card: RTX 3070 Ti 8GB;
6. Power supply: Deersool PF700 80+;

I agree with @mikko.1842, no longer worth buying a new (expensive) system equiped with RTX3070Ti 8GB (previous generation, of 2020!).
DCS can (and will) use over 10GB right from the start, even at 1080P.
Then the odd B760 motherboard and "K" CPU combo, and also that DeepCool PF700 80+ PSU "Tier-C" model (which is short on capacity and rating) should not be used on higher(ish)-end gaming systems...

Resuming:  avoid it.

The original system that you have listed in your first post is not perfect but, no doubt, is far more capable for DCS at 1440P.

Edited June 20, 2024 by LucShep

[Captain Chuck]

I think I'm just gonna do like Luc suggested earlier and stop overthinking this and go with the original build. Now, I'm going to look at some mid range 1440 monitors. ... and a monitor arm  to hold it long enough to reach my position. I won't be facing a desk. My chair faces parralel to a bench on my right that will have a monitor arm attached to it so that the monitor will swing out backwards from the mount to face me. I can just push it aside when I get up. The Mrs is gonna freak when she sees this setup. I'll just tell her she's lucky it's not a VR rig.

[LucShep]

14 hours ago, Captain Chuck said:

I think I'm just gonna do like Luc suggested earlier and stop overthinking this and go with the original build. Now, I'm going to look at some mid range 1440 monitors. 

Has said, the original build is good, just not perfect.
Honestly, I think you have already enough info to make decisions, and try to negotiate changes with the seller for that original build.
So let's see where it could be better:

1. 64GB of RAM, instead of 32GB.
   This is important. It doesn't matter if it's 6000 CL30, 6000 CL32 or 6000 CL36, or if it's a kit of two or four sticks (though you already know where I stand in that matter), difference is too little to be worried about. What you need is to ensure that it is rock-solid stable, for a reliable system.
    
2. Needs an equally good motherboard that has WiFi support features, since you mentioned you'll use wireless internet (some suggestions already posted in here).
    
3. RTX4070 12GB is "good enough" for 1440P.  But it has been replaced by the newer and better RTX4070 Super 12GB, which has similar price.
   There's also the RTX4070Ti Super 16GB (which replaced the RTX4070Ti 12GB), far more expensive, but more potent and has more VRAM, better for DCS in high settings.
   Either way, you already know which models to avoid.
    

Lastly, and regarding the 1440P monitor. Allow me some suggestions, based on personal experience.

First, the size.  I think a good 16:9 monitor with 32'' screen size is a nice size for flight-sims with a single-screen, and the biggest you can go for native 1440P resolution.

Second, the panel type.  I'd say to go for IPS, and not VA or TN. Yes, there are also OLED monitors now, but they're all still too expensive, and still susceptible to burn-in.
Price to performance, a good IPS panel is the better choice for DCS, because of the clarity in motion (motion handling), very important especially if using head-tracking (TrackIR, etc) and for when you need to focus on something at the same time that you are maneuvering (like you would in real life).
You'll notice it, for example, in BFM, or over forests, or simply focusing on objects while in movement. It's in these situations where a good IPS panel just feels more natural (and no ghosting or motion-blur issues) when compared to VA or TN panels.

I've briefly tested and can recommend the Asus TUF VG32AQL1A, the LG 32GP850, the LG 32GP750 (these are G-Sync), and the Gigabyte M32Q (this is FreeSync).
These are 32'' 1440P IPS monitors that are good for flight-sims, and are very reasonably priced (between 270,00 €ur and 400,00 €ur, depending on region and availability).

Edited June 21, 2024 by LucShep

[Aapje]

6 hours ago, LucShep said:

64GB of RAM, instead of 32GB.

I would also advise to go to 64 straight away. RAM is quite affordable at the moment, so I wouldn't skimp right now.

6 hours ago, LucShep said:

RTX4070 12GB is "good enough" for 1440P.  But it has been replaced by the newer and better RTX4070 Super 12GB, which has similar price.

That similar price only exists on paper. In the stores there is a price difference. Chuck should look at the price difference in Russia. If the gap isn't too big, I would go for the Super, which is a decent bit faster.

6 hours ago, LucShep said:

There's also the RTX4070Ti Super 16GB (which replaced the RTX4070Ti 12GB), far more expensive, but more potent and has more VRAM, better for DCS in high settings.
Either way, you already know which models to avoid.

It's a lot more expensive though. I would suggest sticking with the 4070 (super) given the budget constraints.

[Captain Chuck]

11 hours ago, LucShep said:

First, the size.  I think a good 16:9 monitor with 32'' screen size is a nice size for flight-sims with a single-screen, and the biggest you can go for native 1440P resolution.

 

Thanks so much for that. 

Due to my particular circumstances a 27" Monitor is as large as I can go. In fact, I originally thought that I would use a 24" Monitor. But 24"  is hard to find around here in 1440. 

Don't forget, I have been using only a 17" laptop for DCS now for at least 8 years. I don't know what kind of shock a 27" will cause me to go into when I eventually get this rig put together.

[Captain Chuck]

5 hours ago, Aapje said:

 

That similar price only exists on paper. In the stores there is a price difference. Chuck should look at the price difference in Russia. If the gap isn't too big, I would go for the Super, which is a decent bit faster.

 

The cost of a 4070 Super, in my particular case, would cost me about US$120 more to the cost of the entire build. I've already checked with him. Apparently, he suggested the 4070 regular to me because he has a number of them in stock that he bought earlier a discounted price that he could pass on.

In any case, I'm not trying to build the town's best PC here, I am just trying to minimize the mistakes. To put things into perspective....My current rig is a broken 17" laptop with a GTX 1660 ti in it, and I was always in WWII Multiplayer with it.....getting shot down mostly!  

[LucShep]

13 minutes ago, Captain Chuck said:

The cost of a 4070 Super, in my particular case, would cost me about US$120 more to the cost of the entire build. I've already checked with him. Apparently, he suggested the 4070 regular to me because he has a number of them in stock that he bought earlier a discounted price that he could pass on.

In any case, I'm not trying to build the town's best PC here, I am just trying to minimize the mistakes. To put things into perspective....My current rig is a broken 17" laptop with a GTX 1660 ti in it, and I was always in WWII Multiplayer with it.....getting shot down mostly!  

Understood.

Gosh, you're in for a treat!  Like going from a decrepit skoda to a brand new ferrari.  

[Aapje]

@Captain Chuck

For that price difference, I would get the regular 4070.