sirrah Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 (edited) Any users out there with some long term (>1 year) experience with Winwing's Orion2 MFSSB? And additionally also experience with other force sensor bases (e.g.: Cougar/Warthog mods, Realsimulator, other?) I've read and watched many reviews, but most of them (if not all I found) were reviews after relatively short periods of trial. Does anyone have a more long term verdict on Winwing's MFSSB? Or is anyone from experience able to compare the quality/sensitivity of the Winwing MFSSB with one of the many TM Cougar/Warthog sensor mods? (I'm not so much interested in the Realsimulator one. I'm sure it's top of the league, but its price is just far beyond what I'm willing to spend on a stick base) Bit of additional info, on where my question is coming from: I've been forever searching and reading into force sensor stick options. It's mainly the steep costs that always held me back from ever pulling the trigger. Yet, now that our DCS Viper is nearing its feature complete status, I'm at the point where I want to invest in this piece of hardware. I'm pretty close to ordering the Cougar Force Transducer mod from Invictus Cockpit Systems, but with shipping costs and import duties+TAX from the US to EU, that mod will probably also near €400,-. For about the same amount, I can purchase the Winwing MFSSB. It's just that I see mixed opinions about their quality (especially several reports about poor sensitivity around the stick center). Edit: I just noticed that for my Cougar and Warthog grip to work with the Orion2 base, I'd also need to purchase the €50,- conversion kit . To bad these things are hardly ever sold 2nd hand.. Edited June 25, 2024 by sirrah System specs: i7-8700K @stock speed - GTX 1080TI @ stock speed - AsRock Extreme4 Z370 - 32GB DDR4 @3GHz- 500GB SSD - 2TB nvme - 650W PSU HP Reverb G1 v2 - Saitek Pro pedals - TM Warthog HOTAS - TM F/A-18 Grip - TM Cougar HOTAS (NN-Dan mod) & (throttle standalone mod) - VIRPIL VPC Rotor TCS Plus with ALPHA-L grip - Pointctrl & aux banks <-- must have for VR users!! - Andre's SimShaker Jetpad - Fully adjustable DIY playseat - VA+VAICOM - Realsimulator FSSB-R3 ~ That nuke might not have been the best of ideas, Sir... the enemy is furious ~ GUMMBAH
3ra_Luke Posted June 25, 2024 Posted June 25, 2024 In my opinion, having tried F16EX with FFBB kit and F16EX standard CAM/Springs base (both with shaker add-on), you only should buy the FFBB kit if you fly exclusively on the F-16. In fact, I installed yesterday the Orion 2 Joystick CAM/Spring/Damping Extension Kit , replacing the FFBB add-on that came preinstalled with my Orion 2 base, and for me it's the perfect match. The standard Orion 2 base, is, IMHO, simply perfect for all aircraft and sims. For me, flying different aircraft including the F-16, FFBB kit was a mistake. 1 MSI Trident X Plus 9SF-488EU Intel Core i9-9900K/64GB/2x2TB M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD+1x2TB SSD/RTX 2080Ti/Samsung C49RG90 120hz/HP Reverb/
markturner1960 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 (edited) I have had mine for over a year, and used to have the Real simulator base. I am shortly taking delivery of the Tianhang Pro base and grip though. I have really enjoyed the winwing base and dont have any real complaints once I had it dialled in with the sim app pro software.....I can for sure recommend it, and if you are interested will be selling my base ( and EX grip) as soon as the Tianhang arrives.......let me know if you are interested, can do a good price... In case you are interested in why I am upgrading, its not because I dislike the winwing grip, its just I am a terrible gear hound and the Tianhang offers some great features, so I am trying it out..... I found the winwing fairly similar in use to the Realsimluator offering, which does of course have much more versatile software and some extra features ......My main issues with the RS items were problems with the bluetooth connectivity, which is why I sold it and moved onto the winwing......I have not noticed any lack of sensitivity around the centre as you mentioned..... Edited June 30, 2024 by markturner1960 System specs: PC1 :Scan 3XS Ryzen 5900X, 64GB Corsair veng DDR4 3600, EVGA GTX 3090 Win 10, Quest Pro, Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo monitor.
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