[Solved] Problem with laser rockets

[Scumbag]

When I use the BRM-1 Laser guided Rockets , I do the same procedure with the WMD7 targeting Pod that I do for the laser bombs.

The laser bombs all go to the target, but the rockets do not go anywhere.

I have seen tutorials on YouTube.

On the WMD7 screen in the tutorials, the word "AUTO" appears on the OSB9, but the word LSR appears to me.

 

Have I left out any steps in the procedure?.

Edited September 17, 2024 by uboats

[Dr_Pavelheer]

When I used them last time it was just a matter of pointing and shooting, laser turns on automatically.

On the screenshot it says that fuse is set to safe, maybe that's why they're not working?

 

The way laser works in the Jeff is by default it turns on automatically, instantly if you use rockets or with a delay if you drop laser guided bombs. Using LSR button forces laser to turn on for instance if you're designating for somebody else

[Wyvern]

On 7/30/2024 at 1:12 AM, Dr_Pavelheer said:

On the screenshot it says that fuse is set to safe, maybe that's why they're not working?

That means the warhead/explosives are turned off, you have to set it "EFUZE" to turn them on, now they should be hitting and killing stuff.

[Scumbag]

I have tried putting the OSB9 (LSR) button in all possible options, the same with the OSB7 (LSS OFF) button, and the result is the same.
The fuse thing has no relation to the guidance of the rocket. I put the fuse in EFUZE and the result is the same.

When I fire the rocket, while flying, sometimes make a break to the left, and sometimes to the right.

I think the key is that in the OSB9 I have to have the word AUTO. 

If not, it doesn't work.

Edited August 11, 2024 by Scumbag

[Dr_Pavelheer]

The only thing that comes to my mind is that you might be shooting rockets too far off target so they don't see the laser, remember that they have limited field of view. You should also double check if the laser codes match.

Other than that it's just a matter of pointing and shooting

[tekwoj]

On 8/12/2024 at 12:19 AM, Scumbag said:

I think the key is that in the OSB9 I have to have the word AUTO.

No. By default it's in auto mode, if you click the button it will turn on manual lasing. This will be indicated by the LSR being in border and a count down timer in the middle of MFD display (time to laser burnout).

On 8/12/2024 at 12:19 AM, Scumbag said:

the same with the OSB7 (LSS OFF) button,

LSS is laser search - the pod will look for laser signal from other source (when buddy lasing)

Make a quick mission in mission editor. One target, hot start plane. Fly the mission, fire a rocket, wait until impact, exit the mission. Save the track file. Upload it here and we should be able to help you.

[Scumbag]

On 8/12/2024 at 9:17 PM, Dr_Pavelheer said:

The only thing that comes to my mind is that you might be shooting rockets too far off target so they don't see the laser, remember that they have limited field of view. You should also double check if the laser codes match.

In my HUD appear "INRNG".

I leave here a .TRK.

Laser code?... I think is possible.

On 8/13/2024 at 5:12 PM, tekwoj said:

Make a quick mission in mission editor. One target, hot start plane. Fly the mission, fire a rocket, wait until impact, exit the mission. Save the track file. Upload it here and we should be able to help you.

Is the training mission.

No more than 3 min.

LasRockErrJF17.trk

Edited August 14, 2024 by Scumbag

[tekwoj]

What goes wrong in this track file is that right after you launch the first rocket you turn on LSS mode. This prevents lasing. You can verify this by replaying it, and right after the launch, beforee LSS is turned on do ESC -> take control. Then do nothing, the rocket will hit.

 

So to sum up procedure for BRM:

• Master arm on,
• A-G mode selected,
• BRM selected in SMS page
• Fuze set to EFUZE
• TGP on
• TGP in AREA track or POINT track
• launch on HUD cue

You shouldn't have to mess with anything on tgp related to laser. LSS is only when you want to find buddy lased target. LSR is for when you want to manually laser targets which shouldn't be needed in 95% of situations.

 

[Scumbag]

On 8/15/2024 at 1:48 AM, tekwoj said:

What goes wrong in this track file is that right after you launch the first rocket you turn on LSS mode. This prevents lasing. You can verify this by replaying it, and right after the launch, beforee LSS is turned on do ESC -> take control. Then do nothing, the rocket will hit.

 

I activated the LSS manually.
After trying everything, I activated the LSS in case it had any relation to the failure.

On 8/15/2024 at 1:48 AM, tekwoj said:

You shouldn't have to mess with anything on tgp related to laser. LSS is only when you want to find buddy lased target. LSR is for when you want to manually laser targets which shouldn't be needed in 95% of situations.

LSR is the one that appears by default.
If I click on the OSB LSR, it does nothing. It puts a box on it or removes it, but although "point" appears when target is blocked, the rockets do the same.

You can watch in this track, LSS don't change, but the results is the same.

LasRockErrJF17-2.trk

Edited August 21, 2024 by Scumbag

[tekwoj]

12 hours ago, Scumbag said:

You can watch in this track, LSS don't change, but the results is the same.

I watched the track, 3 rockets hit, 4th one misses cause it's launched too close and it can't turn hard enough to hit the target (but it really tried so don't be angry at it).

Here's the video

If on your end it looks different, do you have mods installed?

[Pavlin_33]

On 8/15/2024 at 2:48 AM, tekwoj said:

What goes wrong in this track file is that right after you launch the first rocket you turn on LSS mode. This prevents lasing. You can verify this by replaying it, and right after the launch, beforee LSS is turned on do ESC -> take control. Then do nothing, the rocket will hit.

 

So to sum up procedure for BRM:

• Master arm on,
• A-G mode selected,
• BRM selected in SMS page
• Fuze set to EFUZE
• TGP on
• TGP in AREA track or POINT track
• launch on HUD cue

You shouldn't have to mess with anything on tgp related to laser. LSS is only when you want to find buddy lased target. LSR is for when you want to manually laser targets which shouldn't be needed in 95% of situations.

 

You can actually launch before the cue. I think 5-6 miles work, possibly even further, but I have not tested the absolute limit yet.

[Dr_Pavelheer]

I usually shoot from 7 miles, but I put the CCIP pipper in the general area of the TGP symbol on the HUD, preferably a bit long so rocket doesn't have to maneuver as much

[tekwoj]

2 hours ago, Pavlin_33 said:

You can actually launch before the cue. I think 5-6 miles work, possibly even further, but I have not tested the absolute limit yet.

That brings a lot to a discussion where we try to figure out why someone's rockets don't hit target.

[Pavlin_33]

6 hours ago, tekwoj said:

That brings a lot to a discussion where we try to figure out why someone's rockets don't hit target.

You are correct. Just thought that is would be usefull to mention.

[Scumbag]

On 8/22/2024 at 12:28 PM, tekwoj said:

I watched the track, 3 rockets hit, 4th one misses cause it's launched too close and it can't turn hard enough to hit the target (but it really tried so don't be angry at it).

Here's the video

If on your end it looks different, do you have mods installed?

I only have the JAS39 and the T-45 Goshawk.

 

The results for me are very different. The rockets go astray.

I made a video with the screens at right, cause I got a home cockpit.

And this way it is much easier to see my configuration.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by Scumbag

[Napillo]

I just used them a couple days ago, everything worked fine.

[tekwoj]

46 minutes ago, Scumbag said:

I only have the JAS39 and the T-45 Goshawk.

 

The results for me are very different. The rockets go astray.

I made a video with the screens at right, cause I got a home cockpit.

And this way it is much easier to see my configuration.

 

 

 

Yeah, it's going to be one of the mods. Last time me and someone else had this kind of difference was caused by mods.

[Scumbag]

Problem solved.
They were the mods.
I deleted them and the laser weapons now work fine.
Thank you all for your attention.