rapid Posted November 23, 2024 Author Posted November 23, 2024 1 hour ago, Scott-S6 said: Internal construction is okay. As expected the hat switches are just regular tactile switches in a plastic holder. The tailpipe is connected the same way as a TM but is a much better fit for the shell so it ought to resist the fore-aft slop problem at least somewhat. My guess is that the tailpipe is a MIM part which would be very sensible (better than the cast zinc on the warthog). Whoever did the alu castings did a pretty good job. They aren't bad at all and there are machining operations on the cast parts to ensure a good fit (odd that it seems at least some of the machining was done after painting - was the plan that they would not need to do this?). The shell fits back together well. The only hassle on reassembly is the spring for the trigger. Also, all of the shell screws are identical which makes things slightly easier. (They do spoil this by having two different screws for the expansion module which also requires two screwdrivers, neither of which is the one for the shell screws) thanks for this. I opened up mine yesterday just to make sure that the button screw on the tailpipe had not come loose. You said the Moza stick "reassembly is the spring for the trigger" Does it just have 1 x spring on the trigger or 2 x springs like the TM? Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Scott-S6 Posted November 23, 2024 Posted November 23, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, rapid said: thanks for this. I opened up mine yesterday just to make sure that the button screw on the tailpipe had not come loose. You said the Moza stick "reassembly is the spring for the trigger" Does it just have 1 x spring on the trigger or 2 x springs like the TM? Just one big one. Got to reach in with a screwdriver and lever it into place as you close the halves. I kept the trigger with the right side of the shell and the trigger board. Might be easier keeping the trigger with the left half of the shell but I did not test that. Edited November 23, 2024 by Scott-S6 1
rapid Posted November 24, 2024 Author Posted November 24, 2024 Many thanks Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Scott-S6 Posted November 26, 2024 Posted November 26, 2024 (edited) Update from Moza support. Moza consider the MH-16 to be "compatible" with all the bases I tested it on because supports everything that the TM does. Despite not having a usable CMS push (not if you also want to use the CMS directions) and the binding nonsense with the CMS functions you can actually use. So, what we have is a viper grip that doesn't have the functions required for the viper when used on 3rd party bases and is a pain in the butt to bind. "Effortless plug and play" indeed. ETA - since putting the statement above to them, they have stopped responding to me. I do not consider this grip compatible with third party bases at this time. It may become compatible if some of those base manufacturers want to support it but it is not at the moment. Edited November 28, 2024 by Scott-S6 1
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