Any usecase for having bound both flap levers?

[twistking]

Since i bought the F-5 i have mapped both the levers/switches for flap control. Now, i'm revisiting the keymap and i'm realising that i never used the (backup?) lever, but only use the throttle thumb switch.

My question: Is there any usecase for having both mapped to the Hotas? I'm thinking of binding the lever (that i don't use) to the keyboard to free up Hotas real-estate. Is there anything i'm missing?
In which situations would i need quick access to both flap control methods?

Am i right that the lever is more of a backup thing and is not needed during normal operation?
Am i missing something obvious when only ever using the throttle thumb switch?

[=475FG= Dawger]

2 hours ago, twistking said:

Since i bought the F-5 i have mapped both the levers/switches for flap control. Now, i'm revisiting the keymap and i'm realising that i never used the (backup?) lever, but only use the throttle thumb switch.

My question: Is there any usecase for having both mapped to the Hotas? I'm thinking of binding the lever (that i don't use) to the keyboard to free up Hotas real-estate. Is there anything i'm missing?
In which situations would i need quick access to both flap control methods?

Am i right that the lever is more of a backup thing and is not needed during normal operation?
Am i missing something obvious when only ever using the throttle thumb switch?

No good reason in DCS to map the flap lever. Thumb switch is sufficient for all operations provided the lever is in Thumb Sw. 

If ever needed , the lever is clickable 

[twistking]

2 hours ago, =475FG= Dawger said:

No good reason in DCS to map the flap lever. Thumb switch is sufficient for all operations provided the lever is in Thumb Sw. 

If ever needed , the lever is clickable 

thanks!

[Bucic]

Due to the design of the lever and the fact that it's the only way to fully and permanently extend the flaps (no automation "tailoring" the position because you oscillated in pitch for 1 second) the lever seems to be better suited for emergency use. I'd sure use it for belly landing with landing gear retracted.

Helicopter hunting and formation flying with turboprops also come to mind.

Maximum range with any stores and maximum endurance without stores is achieved with flaps UP but that can be set on the thumb switch on the throttle.

 

Edited November 29, 2024 by Bucic

[twistking]

3 minutes ago, Bucic said:

Due to the design of the lever and the fact that it's the only way to fully and permanently extend the flaps (no automation "tailoring" the position because you oscillated in pitch for 1 second) the lever seems to be better suited for emergency use. Helicopter hunting and formation flying with turboprops also come to mind.

Maximum range with any stores and maximum endurance without stores is achieved with flaps UP but that can be set on the thumb switch on the throttle.

 

good points. however with landing gear down flaps will also fully and permanently extend on thumb/auto setting, correct?

[Bucic]

1 hour ago, twistking said:

good points. however with landing gear down flaps will also fully and permanently extend on thumb/auto setting, correct?

Correct, with the landing gear down. I was talking about imminent ground collision save or a belly landing with gear up.

[=475FG= Dawger]

1 hour ago, twistking said:

good points. however with landing gear down flaps will also fully and permanently extend on thumb/auto setting, correct?

Yes.
 

There are some real world checklists that put the lever in down for landing, ostensibly to avoid inadvertent flap retraction in the event of an auto mode malfunction. 
 

Completely unnecessary in DCS as no such failure is possible. 

[Bucic]

8 hours ago, =475FG= Dawger said:

Yes.
 

There are some real world checklists that put the lever in down for landing, ostensibly to avoid inadvertent flap retraction in the event of an auto mode malfunction. 
 

Completely unnecessary in DCS as no such failure is possible. 

Speaking of failures, are the ones listed in the mission editor for an aircraft type the only possible failures or are they just the only trigger-able ones?