Ideal speed for best instant turn rate?

[division]

Two fox 2's and two SD-10s, what is the ideal speed for instantaneous turn rate in the JF-17 at Seal level?  I've been trying to figure this out and its driving me nuts.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[PawlaczGMD]

13 hours ago, division said:

Two fox 2's and two SD-10s, what is the ideal speed for instantaneous turn rate in the JF-17 at Seal level?  I've been trying to figure this out and its driving me nuts.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

This guy Contact light has compiled EM diagrams for many jets, albeit in the clean config. Take a look:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1092582325591740516/1092610587843903528/Subsonic_Energy_Maneuverability_Diagrams_for_DCS_202304.pdf?ex=67a6a8e7&is=67a55767&hm=9dbf6f3d5f797cc712596198ffdc30b97ce98e3c29aadcb678495d81f184d4ea&

 

Max inst rate seems to be an 8g pull at around 300 kts.

[division]

Thank you!

[Pavlin_33]

On 2/6/2025 at 4:39 PM, division said:

Two fox 2's and two SD-10s, what is the ideal speed for instantaneous turn rate in the JF-17 at Seal level?  I've been trying to figure this out and its driving me nuts.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

That would be the highest attainable G at the lowest possible airspeed.

You can test it your self: get up to speed, yank the stick all the way aft, Jeff has FBW so it will not let you depart flight, and check what's the lowest speed at which you can get 8G. I believe that it's limited to 8 or 9G, please don't quote me on this one. Check the speed and that's your "corner speed".

P.S. Jf-17's FBW system will limit you to either max AoA or max G.

Edited February 12 by Pavlin_33

[Napillo]

I've seen anywhere from 350 to 420 knots