P-47 Needs this...

[NIAGARA MOHAWK]

The P-47 is such a good module, but it is Missing something .........a Radial Eng Signature item. .....Smoke belch on startup ..

there's gotta be some oil polled in those lower cylinder heads?  

ED === Can we get some Smoke Please??  

[MasaMan]

Not to mention the starting sound, it's very anticlimactic. 

You barely hear anything and what you hear is nearly silent "brrt" and that's it.

Same goes for most WW2 planes in DCS. Compare any of them in Youtube and see/hear how exciting the startups are in comparison.

It's the same thing with or without the "hear like helmet" -option.

[NIAGARA MOHAWK]

12 minutes ago, MasaMan said:

Not to mention the starting sound, it's very anticlimactic. 

You barely hear anything and what you hear is nearly silent "brrt" and that's it.

Same goes for most WW2 planes in DCS. Compare any of them in Youtube and see/hear how exciting the startups are in comparison.

It's the same thing with or without the "hear like helmet" -option.

you are 100% right MasaMan ...  I just didn't want to ask for too much at once, we will be damn lucky if we get the smoke, WWII being the unwanted stepchild as it is ...but you never know , so i asked anyways, you'd think we would have learned by now ???

[grafspee]

58 minutes ago, MasaMan said:

Not to mention the starting sound, it's very anticlimactic. 

You barely hear anything and what you hear is nearly silent "brrt" and that's it.

Same goes for most WW2 planes in DCS. Compare any of them in Youtube and see/hear how exciting the startups are in comparison.

It's the same thing with or without the "hear like helmet" -option.

It is impossible to recreate sound levels of those engines in game in terms of loudness. So start up sound is quiet so that sound level at full power can be manageable.

I was standing something like 30m from Starting up spitfire and how i head that was completely different than what you can hear in YouTube. Even i was shocked when i played my own recordings. recording device adjust mic sensitivity to the loudest sound. 

Here is good example when two spitfires are taxing and spitfire far away is powering up for take off, loudness becomes so high that recording device lowers mic sensitivity that much that it mutes that close by spitfire instantly.

That is why on YouTube idling planes are so loud.

 

[MasaMan]

8 minutes ago, grafspee said:

It is impossible to recreate sound levels of those engines in game in terms of loudness. So start up sound is quiet so that sound level at full power can be manageable.

I was standing something like 30m from Starting up spitfire and how i head that was completely different than what you can hear in YouTube. Even i was shocked when i played my own recordings. recording device adjust mic sensitivity to the loudest sound. 

Here is good example when two spitfires are taxing and spitfire far away is powering up for take off, loudness becomes so high that recording device lowers mic sensitivity that much that it mutes that close by spitfire instantly.

That is why on YouTube idling planes are so loud.

 

Yeah I'm aware of that, I too have seen vintage planes in person. What I meant was that there are many steps of noises that are missing in startup and that's a shame. It sounds barebones  in startup which in turn, sounds quiet. In flight sounds are great!

It basically doesn't have that rumble of a startup, it's just 1-2 "brt" for ignition and then straight off to low idle without actually running the RPM up to low idle. 

Nice clip btw.

[grafspee]

1 hour ago, MasaMan said:

Yeah I'm aware of that, I too have seen vintage planes in person. What I meant was that there are many steps of noises that are missing in startup and that's a shame. It sounds barebones  in startup which in turn, sounds quiet. In flight sounds are great!

It basically doesn't have that rumble of a startup, it's just 1-2 "brt" for ignition and then straight off to low idle without actually running the RPM up to low idle. 

Nice clip btw.

Oh so you are asking for whole brand new start up/shut down logic. Yeah DCS in that regard is plain flat. Also DCS is missing cold engine simulation as well, cold engine behave completely different then warmed up engine.  I brought that topics couple of times. Obvious miss understanding from my side sorry about that.

[JG1_Labroisse]

Some cool sounds here including a P-47 startup from the cockpit.

 

https://www.avosound.com/en-us/sound-effects/search/aircraft/airplane-world-war-2/

 

 

[MasaMan]

7 hours ago, grafspee said:

Oh so you are asking for whole brand new start up/shut down logic. Yeah DCS in that regard is plain flat. Also DCS is missing cold engine simulation as well, cold engine behave completely different then warmed up engine.  I brought that topics couple of times. Obvious miss understanding from my side sorry about that.

No worries man.

Yeah that's true, it would take some effort to make them what they should be but  I want to believe

Cold engine simulation, even a very simple one would be more than welcome, planes do have oil dilution options as well.

I am happy that they're doing the simulated landing gear physics which is essential in take off and landing.

[grafspee]

On 3/7/2025 at 7:54 AM, MasaMan said:

No worries man.

Yeah that's true, it would take some effort to make them what they should be but  I want to believe

Cold engine simulation, even a very simple one would be more than welcome, planes do have oil dilution options as well.

I am happy that they're doing the simulated landing gear physics which is essential in take off and landing.

Yes they have done a lot past years. I especially like fully visualized spinning prop, no other sim has this.