New CPU and mobo bootup issue I have?

[The_Nephilim]

Well If I just do a restart or shut down ands not power the switch off it seems to work fine unless it is like a cold boot after it being off all night..

[kksnowbear]

10 hours ago, The_Nephilim said:

Well If I just do a restart or shut down ands not power the switch off it seems to work fine...

As you know this is the expected, "normal" behavior.

10 hours ago, The_Nephilim said:

...unless it is like a cold boot after it being off all night..

I'm still not 100% clear what you mean here.

Are you saying that when you do a shutdown (but leave the PSU switch ON), it still does the start-shutdown-restart the first time you start it next day, just by sitting overnight?  This should be no different TBH than normal shutdown/start up at any other time of the day, regardless of how long it sits (unless at some point it's losing power somehow while sitting there.)

(or) Are you saying you turn the PSU switch OFF at night, and it does the start-shutdown-restart thing when you first turn it back on?  If you switch off the PSU, this behavior is typical for the first startup.

Sorry but I want to make sure I understand what you're saying.

Edited April 18 by kksnowbear

[The_Nephilim]

2 hours ago, kksnowbear said:

As you know this is the expected, "normal" behavior.

I'm still not 100% clear what you mean here.

Are you saying that when you do a shutdown (but leave the PSU switch ON), it still does the start-shutdown-restart the first time you start it next day, just by sitting overnight?  This should be no different TBH than normal shutdown/start up at any other time of the day, regardless of how long it sits (unless at some point it's losing power somehow while sitting there.)

(or) Are you saying you turn the PSU switch OFF at night, and it does the start-shutdown-restart thing when you first turn it back on?  If you switch off the PSU, this behavior is typical for the first startup.

Sorry but I want to make sure I understand what you're saying.

No when I just shut the PC off and do not turn the PSU switch off it starts normally. so I am guessing by me turning off the PSU switch to off that the restart issues is supposed to happen as it is training or similar?

 

IF so then I guess there is no issue and I can not worry about it.. thnx

[kksnowbear]

55 minutes ago, The_Nephilim said:

No when I just shut the PC off and do not turn the PSU switch off it starts normally. so I am guessing by me turning off the PSU switch to off that the restart issues is supposed to happen as it is training or similar?

 

IF so then I guess there is no issue and I can not worry about it.. thnx

Thanks for clarifying

Yes, I would say this is normal - as I mentioned above, some BIOS settings (obviously, enabling the XMP profile in your case) will cause shutdown-restart even if the machine is already running (once you save/exit, that is).

For example, if you're in BIOS and change certain settings, then save/restart, the machine will just restart and boot.  Certain other settings, however (usually involving memory - like with XMP in your case) when changed while in BIOS, then save/restart will cause the machine to shut down, then restart.

I've always associated this with (what I call) 'initialization', where memory training occurs later in the POST sequence.

In any case, I believe what you're seeing is normal behavior.  Glad if it helps.  FWIW the only time I turn off the PSU switch is when I'm working on stuff (swapping guts) or moving a machine.  But I do have several UPS units, basically one for each bench/machine plus a couple others for the monitors etc, so I don't worry about leaving them switched on.

Edited April 18 by kksnowbear

[Qcumber]

Sorry if you have already tried this, and it might not relate to your issues, but I have had boot issues with 6000 RAM and EXPO. Boot times would vary sometimes taking several minutes. After enabling "memory context restore" in the BIOS boot times are now about 30s. 

[kksnowbear]

7 hours ago, Qcumber said:

Sorry if you have already tried this, and it might not relate to your issues, but I have had boot issues with 6000 RAM and EXPO. Boot times would vary sometimes taking several minutes. After enabling "memory context restore" in the BIOS boot times are now about 30s. 

What you're describing is because of what's called memory "training".  Typical behavior (especially for recent gen AMD boards), depending on BIOS settings - as you've seen.

The OP is discussing a different typical behavior, whereby a machine will do as he's described *if* the PSU is turned off after shutdown - as he has acknowledged above: it only happens when he switches off the PSU.

Edited April 20 by kksnowbear