INCIRLIK BUGS - 01.04.2025

[Tengah]

Hello to all,

No "April Fools'" joke, I assure you.

Incirlik AFB (LTAG), Turkey.  Ugra Media Syria Map.

- No ILS on RWY 23 after repeated attempts with various aircraft.

- All AI Aircraft make a hard right turn immediately on takeoff from RWY 05.  Larger aircraft, B-1B, etc, results in a runway crash and halts all other departing aircraft, rendering the mission nonfunctional.  This occurs in ALL weather conditions, wind and no wind.

- Hardened Aircraft Shelter Numbers: 72 & 73 - When flying client controlled aircraft, the INS alignment fails due to ground stability issues; the aircraft constantly rocks and/or moves forward even when parking breaks are applied and no throttle input. 

This is a significant base in the region (when flying NATO) that needs some attention.

Looking forward to fixes before too long.

Many thanks.

Edited for this footnote:  I would upload my mission, but it uses a couple of mods.  Before any bright spark decides to chime in stating, "Check Mods", these errors are not related to any of the mods I have installed.

Edited April 1 by Tengah

[Minsky]

8 minutes ago, Tengah said:

- No ILS on RWY 23 after repeated attempts with various aircraft.

8 minutes ago, Tengah said:

All AI Aircraft make a hard right turn immediately on takeoff from RWY 05.  Larger aircraft, B-1B, etc, results in a runway crash and halts all other departing aircraft, rendering the mission nonfunctional

I couldn't reproduce it in my test mission, so you'll have to provide a track.

9 minutes ago, Tengah said:

Hardened Aircraft Shelter Numbers: 72 & 73 - When flying client controlled aircraft, the INS alignment fails due to ground stability issues; the aircraft constantly rocks and/or moves forward even when parking breaks are applied and no throttle input. 

What aircraft are we talking about?

The Hornet's INS aligned fine for me at both shelters, even without chocks. The aircraft stood stable on the ground the whole time.

As for the visual bugs, they have been reported years ago:

 

[Tengah]

Hello Minsky, thank you for your reply.

I should have mentioned that my missions are for multiplayer, and we are using the ED F-16CM.  I don't know whether that may have an impact.

Currently, the winds are set to 2kts direct headwind on takeoff.

- The ILS RWY23 issue: I have tried all weather states, wind speeds from 2 kts through to 20 >.<.  All clients have reported that the ILS does not function for them; no ILS signal, no Morse code.  This is with the latest DCS World patch.  All participating members are experienced and proficient with ED's F-16CM. 

- AI Aircraft issue with RWY05.  The aircraft in use are ED F-15C and ED F-16CM.  I tried to have the ED E-3, KC-135, and B-1B aircraft departing from 05, but they all tried to make a hard right turn on rotate, digging in a wing and crashing.

-  As a workaround to the above, I have set the larger aircraft to start in the air at set timings.  This is ok, but I am seeking the ambience of a mass launch/strike.

- Mods in Use: VAMPYRES Squadron Skins for ED's F-16CM, Bandits Weather Mod, CH Mods, SMAO, Military Aircraft Mod, Civilian Aircraft Mod, and Civilian Vehicles Mod.   All mods are the latest release.

I do not profess to be an expert mission maker, not by any chalk, and I do tend to take "shortcuts" or nonpreferred workarounds to achieve mission objectives, etc.  If I have made any mistakes in the mission editor that are causing these oddities, I will, of course, stand corrected and be extremely grateful for any hints or tips.

Pls find attached Miz and Trk files.

 

LastMissionTrack.trk SYRIA-RAQQA DRAGON JAW-MP-LoViz.miz

Edited April 1 by Tengah

[Minsky]

6 hours ago, Tengah said:

AI Aircraft issue with RWY05.  The aircraft in use are ED F-15C and ED F-16CM.  I tried to have the ED E-3, KC-135, and B-1B aircraft departing from 05, but they all tried to make a hard right turn on rotate, digging in a wing and crashing.

This seems to be related to the Bandit's Weather Mod you use.

I installed it as well (v16) and replicated your weather settings in my otherwise clean and empty mission as follows:

Preset: NONE;
Base: 7999;
Thickness: 16240;
Density: 17.

This made all aircraft departing RWY05 at Incirlik to bank right immediately after takeoff. Smaller jets were able to survive that maneuver, while larger aircraft tipped the runway and crashed.

Without the mod the above weather settings cannot be replicated, as the default thickness and density are capped at 6562 feet and 10, respectively. And with that no bank occurs and all aircraft survive the departure.

Edited April 2 by Minsky

[Tengah]

Minsky, Sir, thank you so much for your help here!  I will do without the weather mod, shame as it is such a great mod, but I would prefer the aircraft to do as they are told   Really appreciate you taking the time.  

[Minsky]

7 hours ago, Tengah said:

The ILS RWY23 issue: I have tried all weather states, wind speeds from 2 kts through to 20 >.<.  All clients have reported that the ILS does not function for them; no ILS signal, no Morse code.

What can I say? It works for me with a strong enough headwind and no weather mods:

This could once again be a mod issue, since even the thick fog in my unmodded mission hasn't forced Incirlik to disregard the wind settings and revert to RWY05.

 

 

Edited April 2 by Minsky

[Tengah]

Once again, many thanks, Minsky.  Very grateful for the time you have taken.  We will keep working at it.

[Minsky]

14 minutes ago, Tengah said:

Once again, many thanks, Minsky.  Very grateful for the time you have taken.  We will keep working at it.

No problems, glad I could help!