Properly setting up CM3 for helos?

[guitarxe]

I've started flying helos and I want to try to replicate a cyclic that stays in place when you let go, doesn't spring back, but still be very sensitive and easy to move for precise minute movements.

I tried playing around with the dampeners, but even after switching to the lighter springs the dampening force required to keep the stick from springing back makes it too stiff and hard to move for precise movements.

Am I supposed to actually remove the springs from the retaining bolts altogether? Do I need to also remove the cams as well?

Also what happens when you have an extension? Mine is 7.5cm and my grip is the Thrustmaster Warthog grip (F16/A-10), so it's all metal and very heavy. Is my stick going to start to "fall over" without any centering?

[Amarok_73]

Since I said goodbye to my HOTAS Logitech G940 with FFB a year ago and sent it into a well-deserved retirement after fifteen years of active service, looking for something to replace it, I decided to give the MongoosT-50CM3 Base with the MongoosT-50 CM2 grip, which is longer than the one in the F-16, a chance. Over the course of this year, I tried very hard to get used to the clutch and damper mechanisms available in it in various ways so that flying helicopters would resemble the time of flying with FFB and... unfortunately, I finally gave up and until last week, when I bought the Moza AB9 base, I flew in the center trim mode (instant), which was quite uncomfortable, but acceptable due to the lack of better alternatives.
And unfortunately, I have to say that if you have flown with FFB and know what behavior to expect from such a system, and what's worse, you have gotten used to it, then a solution based on clutches will not be satisfactory.
The worst factor for me was the lack of control precision resulting from the fact that movement along two axes required struggling with twice as much resistance from two clutches than movement along just one axis. Even zeroing the centring forces by reducing the tension on these mechanisms to zero does not change much, because then the effect of the clutches is felt even more intensely. Another thing was the lack of feeling the center point of forces with the hand, to which the helicopter was trimmed and which was the reference point for possible corrections. Especially the latter, although these are very small and subtle changes in the joystick position, becomes a significant distraction on the scale of everything that needs to be handled to keep the helicopter in stable flight or hovering. Especially in such a sensitive to control helicopter as the Apache.
Therefore, if you have such an option, I would consider selling this Virpil base, and adding the appropriate amount of money to buy a base offering full FFB.