cannot reproduce AFCS failure on cold start

[Psifire]

3 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

For my MS SW FFB2 I have to swap axis in all modules.
Open control settings. Click on the FFB2 column, click the FFB tune button on the bottom. Then click swap axis.

Cheers!

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That helps with the FFB forces being applied wrong, but not with this issue.  This happens when you are trying to cold start the aircraft and you do the BIT for the autopilot.  The game detects joystick inputs and fails because in the real aircraft you can't move the stick during this process.  The only way to get it through the Autopilot BIT successfully is to erase the axis assignments for the joystick then remap it when it's done.

[VANOIS]

Unfortunately, erasing the axis doesn't help me, only physically disabling the joystick

[sith1144]

heres my track, with a vpforce Rhino. at some point I slightly open the canopy and close it again, after that I run an AFCS bit with master gain (FFB strength) at 0, then one at 100, then one with it fully off, then another couple at 100%. At no point does the AFCS align.

is what I would say if the track wasn't too big? its made with the startup tutorial mission, and its 152MB and I have a limit of 50. uhh, it should be available here for 7 days https://limewire.com/d/po67L#wWstxlXvdL

[MAXsenna]

That helps with the FFB forces being applied wrong, but not with this issue.  This happens when you are trying to cold start the aircraft and you do the BIT for the autopilot.  The game detects joystick inputs and fails because in the real aircraft you can't move the stick during this process.  The only way to get it through the Autopilot BIT successfully is to erase the axis assignments for the joystick then remap it when it's done.

Ah, so in the real aircraft the stick doesn't move during the test?
No wonder why it fails then.

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[Explicable]

On 9/18/2025 at 10:29 AM, Wags said:

Probably not, but without a track, we cannot know. This is not something we can reproduce.

Literally every person I know has problems with AFCS, including me. And instead of always asking for a track, QA should be adhoc testing it like a natural user. Do multiple flights, land, shut down engines, repair, then try to turn afcs back on... it doesnt work. 

[sith1144]

here's another go in the instant access scenario, to get a shorter track. first 2 attempts are at 100% stick gain/power, then 0%, then 50%

Edit: oh and I only touch the stick to neutralize trim, I don't touch it while afcs calibrates itself

mig-29 AFCS problems.trk

Edited 12 hours ago by sith1144

[Psifire]

On 9/20/2025 at 11:31 PM, VANOIS said:

Unfortunately, erasing the axis doesn't help me, only physically disabling the joystick

This would indicate you are having a different issue entirely.  If you unassign the Pitch and Roll Axis from all controllers and you are still getting failures in the BIT your problem isn't being caused by inadvertent inputs from a FFB joystick.  Unfortunately the BIT is rather picky to begin with and can fail for a number of reasons.  It fails if you haven't switched off ground power when you try to run it for instance.  

Edited 1 hour ago by Psifire