topol-m Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) When DCS: A-10C comes out i think we can expect to see somewhat increased AA capabilities of the Hog due to datalink use. Until DCS: "Fighter" is ready we`re going to enjoy a little old fashion air combat :pilotfly: Several questions related to that subject: 1. For training purposes - in FC how can i make the enemy AI (A-10/Su-25) attack me (A-10/Su-25)? For these planes there is no CAP task in the editor. If that`s possible to be done will they attack with everything they`ve got - when they`re out of R-60/73, Sidewinder will they attack with cannon? 2. In DCS: A-10C would it be possible to lock on (with targeting systems) air targets, at least low and slow flying ones like helicopters for instance? I generally see no problem with that as this would be analogical to ground targets locking though i may be wrong cause the targeting pod might have some limitations. Anyways except for the datalink should we expect someting else in DCS: A-10C that`s making AA combat easier? 3. The use of Sidewinder missiles in A-10C vs A-10C scenarios. Ok. I have some concerns that in DCS: A-10C this weapon would be very difficult to escape from. The reason is that it will be fired at very close ranges due to various factors (tactics, altitude, targeting procedure in A-10) thus the missile will have a much stable lock. Given the time for reaction at this distance and the fact that the RWR will be silent i feel it`s gonna be death incarnate :laugh: So some clarification needed, if there is enough info, of how is this going to be in DCS: A-10C. Edited August 22, 2009 by topol-m [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
golfsierra2 Posted August 22, 2009 Posted August 22, 2009 (edited) 1. For training purposes - in FC how can i make the enemy AI (A-10/Su-25) attack me (A-10/Su-25)? For these planes there is no CAP task in the editor. If that`s possible to be done will they attack with everything they`ve got - when they`re out of R-60/73, Sidewinder will they attack with cannon? Of course not - A-10 and Su-25 are air-to-ground attack aircraft, they never will be tasked with a combat air patrol (CAP) task.... Besides that, use the setting 'expert' for AI-Pilots, and usually, they will try to kill you with everything they have... Edited August 22, 2009 by golfsierra2 kind regards, Raven.... [sigpic]http://www.crc-mindreader.de/CRT/images/Birds2011.gif[/sigpic]
topol-m Posted August 22, 2009 Author Posted August 22, 2009 Of course not - A-10 and Su-25 are air-to-ground attack aircraft, they never will be tasked with a combat air patrol (CAP) task.... I know they are not supposed to do CAP i was just wondering how to tell them to do so ;) Thanks for "expert" setting hint. I`ll try it out. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Sidewinder can be defeated if you have your flares out before it is launched usually. Same for almost any heater out there. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
topol-m Posted August 24, 2009 Author Posted August 24, 2009 Sidewinder can be defeated if you have your flares out before it is launched usually. Same for almost any heater out there. Then we are going to need a a lot of flares :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 The A-10 happens to carry some 200 flares, IIRC. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
159th_Viper Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 And you better start saving your Pennies for a half-way decent LWR to strap to the outside of your Hog........12 Vikhrs has a tendancy to make one sweat - never mind the Neck Strain :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
topol-m Posted August 24, 2009 Author Posted August 24, 2009 And you better start saving your Pennies for a half-way decent LWR to strap to the outside of your Hog........12 Vikhrs has a tendancy to make one sweat - never mind the Neck Strain :D Yeah that`s a good idea. But after all Black sharks should be more intimidated by the Hog than it by them :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Not needed ... you have to have the hog coming straight at you or going straight away from you, at almost the same elevation. The hog can junk and your vikhr is toast ... who do you think will win this duel, assuming the hog pilot isn't completely unaware of things? ;) And you better start saving your Pennies for a half-way decent LWR to strap to the outside of your Hog........12 Vikhrs has a tendancy to make one sweat - never mind the Neck Strain :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
159th_Viper Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 ... who do you think will win this duel, assuming the hog pilot isn't completely unaware of things? ;) If it turns into a Duel, the Kamov pilot erred.......;) Think of it as Walking into a Brick as you round a corner - you just never know what's Lurking behind the next one.........:chair: It's not Paranoia if someone is really Hunting you! That'll be Me in my Trusty Whirly-Bird. As I said - I'll inevitably get trounced 9 times out of 10.....I'm in it for the 1 :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
topol-m Posted August 24, 2009 Author Posted August 24, 2009 Can you reveal something about 2., Tharos? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Viper: Try 1 out of 100. ;) Well, with me anyway. Most people will be flying low, slow, and blind I bet. ;) Topol: The targeting pod can track any heat source you assign it to I'm sure. I think you could probably judge by watching some youtube videos. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
topol-m Posted August 24, 2009 Author Posted August 24, 2009 yep, some examples of airborn targets tracking in youtube. Wags said the Litening targeting pod will be modelled in game but do you know if there is competition between Litening and Sniper XR to be used as general upgrade of A-10 fleet? Or USAF will equip different planes with different pods, cause it`s like i`m finding more info about upgrading A-10s with Sniper XR? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 (edited) Ah, I am not really aware of that - DCS A-10C will have Litening because this is what the air force requested to be modeled. Edit: I was just informed that the A-10 fleet will be using both types of TGP. Edited August 24, 2009 by GGTharos [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
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