gwizairshows Posted yesterday at 01:23 PM Posted yesterday at 01:23 PM This mod has great potential. Unfortunately it has some constant crash issues with Pimax Play resulting in game crashing to desk top. I have researched and tried numerous ways to comply with the online system crash advice, but nothing seems to work. Trying the old open XR and Pimax play start options initially start off fine, but then almost at the exact same spot taxiing from a cold start the sim crashes. It is very frustrating, especially considering the amount of time I have dedicated to learning this module. As far as my rig, I am operating a Cyber Power Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900K, 3200 Mhz, 24 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s), with Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090. So handling this module and DCS should be no problem. These crashes only happen with this MiG-29A module. It appears something is wrong with this module and Pimax Play. Anyone else having these issues?
gwizairshows Posted yesterday at 01:30 PM Author Posted yesterday at 01:30 PM here is the crash log file: dcs.20240625-155127.crash
Lt_Jaeger Posted yesterday at 01:41 PM Posted yesterday at 01:41 PM For me, everything is running fine with the OG Crystal. No crashes and very good performance. You might want to check if you run some unofficial mods or did do some fancy stuff to the finicky pimax software. A full repair of DCS might also help.
Brzi_Joe Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM You may try to change order of OpenXR layers.
sleighzy Posted yesterday at 08:17 PM Posted yesterday at 08:17 PM Can you please attach your DCS log file for when this occurs again. The log file will get overwritten each time you start DCS so make sure to grab it first. 1 AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
gwizairshows Posted yesterday at 08:44 PM Author Posted yesterday at 08:44 PM Well... I just may have solved the problem. I went back to Open Composite, activated it and disabled Steam VR in the Open Composite option. Activated Open XR and Tool kit programs. Started Pimax Play, and in the Games section disabled in the menus any reference to Steam VR (including aspects regarding the DCS Game Start option) and hit Apply. Then activated DCS from the Pimax Game option (with all the Steam VR stuff off). Held my breath, and to my amazement flew a complete 40 min solo Nav mission out of Maykop from cold start to shut down. Everything worked perfectly!! Therefore, I am assuming the problem is actually with Pimax, (not playing with) Steam VR and something to do with those two that relates to the Mig-29A module. Of course that was only one flight. Will try multiple flights soon and report if all is okay using the above process. Again this whole problem only seems to be a factor with 29A module, all others are fine. As I am fixated on the 29A for the time being, guess this will be the new DCS start norm using the Crystal for me.
sleighzy Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 15 minutes ago, gwizairshows said: I went back to Open Composite, activated it and disabled Steam VR in the Open Composite option. Any reason why you're using OpenComposite? DCS is a native OpenXR game so shouldn't be used with that. And yes, Pimax should ideally be used with either the PimaxPlay OpenXR runtime or Mbucchia's Pimax runtime and not SteamVR. 2 AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
gwizairshows Posted 6 hours ago Author Posted 6 hours ago 17 hours ago, sleighzy said: Any reason why you're using OpenComposite? Admittedly, I am not super computer software savvy. A while back I downloaded those three programs (and also Project Lasso). My understanding was Open Composite regulated the options for OpenXR versus Steam VR. Therefore, I assumed that in order to operate the subsequent programs of Open XR and Open XR tool kit properly, that Open composite had to be activated first in order to insure Steam VR would NOT be run. Please educate me otherwise, as there is a bit of confusion in my mind as to the best way to get the bloody sim to work consistently. BTW, I do find it a bit odd that Steam VR has always been a bugaboo. I do realize that VR was not native core, but after all this time I would hope that these issues would have been ironed out!
gwizairshows Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Update. Did the exact thing I did yesterday. Today, what worked yesterday did not today resulting in 5 system crashes in a row after 5 full and complete system reboots. However, using the exact same mission, but dropping random other modules (Mig-15, etc.) in place of the Mig29A...everything worked perfectly. Giving up for the time being on the 29 until a fix comes out...sigh...
sleighzy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 5 hours ago, gwizairshows said: Admittedly, I am not super computer software savvy. A while back I downloaded those three programs (and also Project Lasso). My understanding was Open Composite regulated the options for OpenXR versus Steam VR. Therefore, I assumed that in order to operate the subsequent programs of Open XR and Open XR tool kit properly, that Open composite had to be activated first in order to insure Steam VR would NOT be run. Please educate me otherwise, as there is a bit of confusion in my mind as to the best way to get the bloody sim to work consistently. BTW, I do find it a bit odd that Steam VR has always been a bugaboo. I do realize that VR was not native core, but after all this time I would hope that these issues would have been ironed out! Nah, OpenComposite takes OpenVR games (not OpenXR like DCS) and "converts" (like a bridge) them to OpenXR. So basically is intended to "allow" SteamVR games to run using OpenXR. Because DCS is already OpenXR none of that is needed. You just need to set your runtime of choice (PimaxPlay or Mbucchia's PimaxXR) as the default OpenXR runtime and it'll use that. If you have set SteamVR to be the runtime for OpenXR it will open SteamVR. 19 minutes ago, gwizairshows said: Today, what worked yesterday did not today resulting in 5 system crashes in a row after 5 full and complete system reboots. Drop another crash log zip file from one of those occurrences. If the system is rebooting then this means a Windows issue and not the game itself. Typically an issue with drivers or memory. Unless I misunderstood your comment and these are reboots you are doing manually. If Windows is rebooting and not a game crash then there likely won't be a crash zip. Run the Windows DxDiag tool, save the output, and drop that here as well as a DCS log file from a crash. Edited 1 hour ago by sleighzy AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
gwizairshows Posted 26 minutes ago Author Posted 26 minutes ago Appreciate the info. I mislead you, sorry...Let me clarify, the game/sim crashed to the steam menu 5 times, normally after a good cold start and just upon power up on the runway. I completely re-booted my system each 5 times to try and insure a clean system. In reference to the crash logs, I know they are in the saved games..., however the only ones I saw after the last crash was from a previous month. I'll try again tomorrow. BTW, thanks for your help!!
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