mondo Posted yesterday at 07:41 PM Posted yesterday at 07:41 PM So I have weird problem I can't solve and I hope someone here may have some advice. I have a Moza AB9 with a VKB MCG I'm using a VPForce adaptor to connect the stick to the black box. The problem I have is the base is sending momentary inputs to the same channels as the axis on the stick. For example, if I move the AB9 on the X Axis it momentarily moves the axis the AP disconnect/brake lever is on - regardless of the settings I assign in the VKB software. It will also send signals to the virtual axis for the flip trigger but only if I'm in the F14 which is really weird. It doesn't do that in the Phantom. I've changed the port that the AB9 uses but it doesn't help. The only thing that seems to deal with this is to turn off the functions associated with the VKB Trigger and brake which is a bit crap. Neither device plays well with Windows Game Controller so that's a non starter. There's no actual physical or electronic connection between the stick and the base and I've had the stick previously on a Gunfighter III without issue. TL/DR Move axis on AB9, it moves both its own axis and that of the MCG. Halp.
MAXsenna Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago So I have weird problem I can't solve and I hope someone here may have some advice. I have a Moza AB9 with a VKB MCG I'm using a VPForce adaptor to connect the stick to the black box. The problem I have is the base is sending momentary inputs to the same channels as the axis on the stick. For example, if I move the AB9 on the X Axis it momentarily moves the axis the AP disconnect/brake lever is on - regardless of the settings I assign in the VKB software. It will also send signals to the virtual axis for the flip trigger but only if I'm in the F14 which is really weird. It doesn't do that in the Phantom. I've changed the port that the AB9 uses but it doesn't help. The only thing that seems to deal with this is to turn off the functions associated with the VKB Trigger and brake which is a bit crap. Neither device plays well with Windows Game Controller so that's a non starter. There's no actual physical or electronic connection between the stick and the base and I've had the stick previously on a Gunfighter III without issue. TL/DR Move axis on AB9, it moves both its own axis and that of the MCG. Halp.Seems you have some ghost/conflict axis going on. DCS will automap axis whenever a device is connected. Just unbind all your axis on the VBK if some of those have been bound by DCS. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
mondo Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago 10 hours ago, MAXsenna said: Seems you have some ghost/conflict axis going on. DCS will automap axis whenever a device is connected. Just unbind all your axis on the VBK if some of those have been bound by DCS. Cheers! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk The problem is outside of DCS by the looks of it. If I rotate the AB9 I can see a momentary input in the VK software on the axis for the lever.
MAXsenna Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago The problem is outside of DCS by the looks of it. If I rotate the AB9 I can see a momentary input in the VK software on the axis for the lever. Aha! Then I guess the "twisting" of the actual materials actually bend the grip a tiny bit, and probably move the magnet/lever, (I assume it's not a potentiometer being VBK and all).Can you fix it with a deadzone? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
mondo Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago 23 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: Aha! Then I guess the "twisting" of the actual materials actually bend the grip a tiny bit, and probably move the magnet/lever, (I assume it's not a potentiometer being VBK and all). Can you fix it with a deadzone? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk No, it's near the end of the travel. It's nothing physical as I can disconnect the stick and move the base and it still sends the signal. It's like the AB9 is sending a signal momentarily on the same channel or IRQ as the axis the lever on the stick is on. It's almost like they all need to be forced onto a different IRQ.
MAXsenna Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, mondo said: It's like the AB9 is sending a signal momentarily on the same channel or IRQ as the axis the lever on the stick is on. It's almost like they all need to be forced onto a different IRQ. Well, if you had an IRQ conflict, which should be a thing of the past since 95, nothing should work, as the different buttons levers slot whatever won't have their own IRQs, to my knowledge. The devices themselves should have different IRQs. Strange indeed. What does Windows Device Manger say? You have a VBK adapter on the Moza, that has a cable to the VBK base to get the grip working, right? What happens when you disconnect that adapter while still have the VBK base connected?
mondo Posted 5 hours ago Author Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 59 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: Well, if you had an IRQ conflict, which should be a thing of the past since 95, nothing should work, as the different buttons levers slot whatever won't have their own IRQs, to my knowledge. The devices themselves should have different IRQs. Strange indeed. What does Windows Device Manger say? You have a VBK adapter on the Moza, that has a cable to the VBK base to get the grip working, right? What happens when you disconnect that adapter while still have the VBK base connected? Yeah, IRQs aren't something I've even thought about in decades. The adaptor on the VKB base doesn't have an connection to the AB9 base other than a screw fitment. Essentially windows sees them as two completely separate devices. However you got me thinking - there's some slight movement in the VKB adaptor and the signal is being created with the pins in the VKB stick by the looks of it. The terrible VKB 3 pin connector strikes again. Cheers buddy. Edited 5 hours ago by mondo
MAXsenna Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, mondo said: The adaptor on the VKB base doesn't have an connection to the AB9 base other than a screw fitment. Essentially windows sees them as two completely separate devices. Yeah, I meant a separate connector to the computer = two devices. 2 hours ago, mondo said: However you got me thinking - there's some slight movement in the VKB adaptor and the signal is being created with the pins in the VKB stick by the looks of it. The terrible VKB 3 pin connector strikes again. Cheers buddy. And my train of thought was along these lines. You fixed it? Cheers?
mondo Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 16 minutes ago, MAXsenna said: Yeah, I meant a separate connector to the computer = two devices. And my train of thought was along these lines. You fixed it? Cheers? Fixed of a sort in that I'll just bite the bullet and buy the upgrade kit that deletes the three pin connectors. It's a terrible design choice that VKB themselves sorted between the Model 3 and 4. The other option was the much more expensive selling the grip and my old Gunfighter 3 and buying a Virpil Flanker which apparently is a direct mount onto the AB9. 1
MAXsenna Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Fixed of a sort in that I'll just bite the bullet and buy the upgrade kit that deletes the three pin connectors. It's a terrible design choice that VKB themselves sorted between the Model 3 and 4. The other option was the much more expensive selling the grip and my old Gunfighter 3 and buying a Virpil Flanker which apparently is a direct mount onto the AB9.Ah, I see. Best of luck! Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
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