Problem with USB controllers

[AstroEma]

Hello all,

I have a problem with the USB game controllers where windows will not recognize the TPR Pendular rudder if I have the WinWing MFD-C attached. If I disconnect the WW ICP then it gets recognized. 

I have tried attaching the devices to different USB ports in the hubs ( I have 2) and the problem still persists.

These are the devices I am using:

WW MFDL

WW MFDR

WW MFDC

WW UFC + HUD

WW ICP

WW F15 Throttles

WW F16 Stick

WW Take Off Panel

WW Combat Panel

TPR Pendular Rudder

Jetseat

Elgato Stream Deck

Track IR 5

 

Are there any solutions to managing the devices that forces windows to assign a port to each? 

Thank you! 

 

[scommander2]

7 hours ago, AstroEma said:

hubs

Is the "daisy chain" hubs?

If it is the hub controller at the end may be exceeded because every 7 USB-ports is required 1 controller.

PS: I will suggest to monitor the USB devices at the device manager USB controller section to find out for devices have warning sign or not when WinWing devices are plugged in.

Edited November 17 by scommander2

[AstroEma]

Will look at the device manager. Thank you.

no they are not daisy chained the hubs. Each one is attached to the motherboard.

[Mr_sukebe]

Try a powered external USB hub.  I found with my old PC that it didn't like having too many USB devices directly attached.

[AstroEma]

Yep I have 3 powered Hubs. I still have the problem!

[scommander2]

On 11/17/2025 at 10:33 AM, AstroEma said:

no they are not daisy chained the hubs. Each one is attached to the motherboard.

There is a USB util, called USB tree view, that provides the view of everything related USB information.  Give a try, if it shows something about the issue.

EDIT:  I am wondering that if TPR connects with motherboard directly, and other USB devices are still connected with hubs, what will be this test result. I own TPR and I am sure that it does not have the USB controller built in.  The Windows system limits up-to 5 max USB controllers, and I am not sure WinWing devices.

Edited Thursday at 03:52 PM by scommander2

[Canard]

I do not have "the" solution but I had this problem with not only game device disconnect but VR-eye tracking device disconnect etc. I tried everything with multiple, different and powerful usb hubs (I have a graveyard of them now) .  The thing I looked at was HID-device limits and that some of the game controllers used up a lot of resources from a limited USB (enumeration?) /controller/channel budget where the Windows symptom (maybe) is kicking out a device when overloaded. My "solution" with the old rig was to not connect one of my devices. Note: I do not know what caused the problems. I am not an expert. What I do know, with my new rig (and a more powerful "hero" motherboard - all but one of my game devices is connected to one powered 16 USB hub (one of the devices was recommended to connect to the motherboard directly). I have also been able to add back the culprit from the last rig. No problems at all. In my previous rig I really had to balance where the devices plugged in (motherboard, front usb, USB hub 1 - 3)

[AstroEma]

Right. Thank you for that feedback. 
well, I bought a USB 2.0 Hub and the problem still persists. I can’t not connect a device because I use them all, and don’t have the means to change the motherboard right now. 

On 11/20/2025 at 4:09 PM, scommander2 said:

There is a USB util, called USB tree view, that provides the view of everything related USB information.  Give a try, if it shows something about the issue.

EDIT:  I am wondering that if TPR connects with motherboard directly, and other USB devices are still connected with hubs, what will be this test result. I own TPR and I am sure that it does not have the USB controller built in.  The Windows system limits up-to 5 max USB controllers, and I am not sure WinWing devices.

I did install USB Tree Viewer and found no issues. I also connected the TPRs directly to the motherboard but the issue still remains. 
not sure how to move forward. 

[scommander2]

57 minutes ago, AstroEma said:

I also connected the TPRs directly to the motherboard but the issue still remains. 

On 11/16/2025 at 5:04 PM, AstroEma said:

If I disconnect the WW ICP then it gets recognized. 

Since TPR has connected with motherboard directly it has the closer path to the root hub controller rather than WinWing devices from WIndows point of view.

How about uninstalling USB device (it may be hidden, enable "show hidden devices") for TPR from Device manager and let Windows recreates a new device entry while TPR connects again? (I am not sure UUID gets an issue)

 

[AstroEma]

Will try that! Thank you.