NumEnter (Zoom normal) & Slider controls

[Martillo1]

Monitor resolution: 1280x1024.

Aspect: 5:4.

Joystick: Saitek X52.

 

I have a doubt: When I start a mission, the zoom is normal (like when NumEnter is pressed). However when I put the slider I assigned to zoomig in the "neutral" position (verified in the control panel), the zoom is augmented a little. I do not know which position is the intended angle of view.

 

Anyone knows?

[Panzertard]

I use the slider for the Zoom to - but honestly, I dont worry about whats the "intended" position. I just use it .. why worry? :)

[Martillo1]

I use the slider for the Zoom to - but honestly, I dont worry about whats the "intended" position. I just use it .. why worry? :)

 

Because my mk1 eyeballs do not have it. It is all about realisticity ;)

[Panzertard]

Then unassign the Zoom again - and it should be solved? ;)

Well, basicly I just keep mine "roughly centered" for normal view. Thats the only sensible advice I can give :)

[Martillo1]

Then unassign the Zoom again - and it should be solved? ;)

Well, basicly I just keep mine "roughly centered" for normal view. Thats the only sensible advice I can give :)

 

Well, I have a big central deadzone for the slider, so it is centered and stable, but it differs from the "Zoom normal" achieved by pressing NumEnter (the former is bigger).

 

My concern is about what type of view a real pilot has of the cabin and, more important, the outside, since VFR and visual range estimation depends on it.

 

I want to fly as real as possible :)

[Panzertard]

Well, I have a big central deadzone for the slider, so it is centered and stable, but it differs from the "Zoom normal" achieved by pressing NumEnter (the former is bigger).

Ah, I've never noticed that actually - never pressed NumEnter :doh:

I have to try it the next time.

 

Still - maybe someone else can give you a sensible answer :)

[Waldo_II]

Sorry this isn't quite related to the topic, but when you guys set the slider to a point other than maximum and minimum, does the FOV bounce around for you? If it isn't either set to maximum zoom or minimum, the FOV seems to bounce back and forth just a little bit, certainly enough to bother me.

[ZaltysZ]

NUMPAD ENTER isn't normal zoom, it is just saved (default) zoom. You can save new zoom level with RCTRL+NUMPAD0. Mine is set to widest.

[Panzertard]

Sorry this isn't quite related to the topic, but when you guys set the slider to a point other than maximum and minimum, does the FOV bounce around for you? If it isn't either set to maximum zoom or minimum, the FOV seems to bounce back and forth just a little bit, certainly enough to bother me.

You may have need to switch to "Ka-50 Real --> Axis Command" then assign the analog Zoom there.

If you assign the Zoom you find in the "all" section, you are assigning the "digital zoom" which have 3 levels only (max in / normal / max out).

[Waldo_II]

You may have need to switch to "Ka-50 Real --> Axis Command" then assign the analog Zoom there.

If you assign the Zoom you find in the "all" section, you are assigning the "digital zoom" which have 3 levels only (max in / normal / max out).

 

No no, I mean jumps from, say, 65° to 66° degrees. This happens when the slider is anywhere but the maximum and minimum. It feels like the helicopter is shaking, though it isn't.

[Panzertard]

No no, I mean jumps from, say, 65° to 66° degrees. This happens when the slider is anywhere but the maximum and minimum. It feels like the helicopter is shaking, though it isn't.

Ah yes - I got that one too. The slider could use a "noise filtering" mechanism (axis input code) to reduce that kind of "jumping".

It's the saturated noise from the potentiometer I guess.

I normally re-adjust my slider a bit back/forward a few times and it settles down.

[Martillo1]

NUMPAD ENTER isn't normal zoom, it is just saved (default) zoom. You can save new zoom level with RCTRL+NUMPAD0. Mine is set to widest.

 

Aha, OK. So if it can be changed... it is not rule of gold. Thanks :)

[Speed_2]

Martillo1,

It's actually less realistic to fly WITHOUT zoom. True your Mk1 eyeball doesn't have zoom, but it has a much higher resolution than your monitor with your view at the normal zoom level. Someone with really good vision can see objects as small as one arc minute, or 1/60 of a degree. However, if the normal zoom level is 66 degrees across horizontally, and you have a 1680x1050 monitor, then that's only 2.4 arc minutes per pixel. Furthermore, factor in that you are not sitting with your eyeball up to the monitor and you may degrade your visibility a bit more. IMO, to keep it accurate, you SHOULD be using the zoom to make up for having to view things at a lower resolution than what you would IRL.

 

I WOULD like to know though, if KA-50 pilots are ever allowed to take binoculars into the pit. Seems like a pair of binoculars would help them alot.

[Martillo1]

Martillo1,

It's actually less realistic to fly WITHOUT zoom. True your Mk1 eyeball doesn't have zoom, but it has a much higher resolution than your monitor with your view at the normal zoom level. Someone with really good vision can see objects as small as one arc minute, or 1/60 of a degree. However, if the normal zoom level is 66 degrees across horizontally, and you have a 1680x1050 monitor, then that's only 2.4 arc minutes per pixel. Furthermore, factor in that you are not sitting with your eyeball up to the monitor and you may degrade your visibility a bit more. IMO, to keep it accurate, you SHOULD be using the zoom to make up for having to view things at a lower resolution than what you would IRL.

 

I WOULD like to know though, if KA-50 pilots are ever allowed to take binoculars into the pit. Seems like a pair of binoculars would help them alot.

 

Yes. it is true that when airborne (as a plane passenger) I can see much more detail (and I have a good sight too). That is why I use zoom in the game, but I would like to know the appropriate FOV.

 

The binoculars issue it is something I had thought as well :D

[159th_Falcon]

About the binocs, dont they got the Shkval for that?

Then you also have a much wider field of view and even an laser range finder at your disposal.

 

(that the Shkval is used for targeting doesnt mean you cant use it for anything else you know xD)

[bumfire]

Sorry this isn't quite related to the topic, but when you guys set the slider to a point other than maximum and minimum, does the FOV bounce around for you? If it isn't either set to maximum zoom or minimum, the FOV seems to bounce back and forth just a little bit, certainly enough to bother me.

 

 

X52 here and yes it does, its a common problem with the slider in the x52's

[Martillo1]

X52 here and yes it does, its a common problem with the slider in the x52's

 

For me too :cry:

[Boulund]

The problem with the wobbly slider is an issue with the X52 Pro version as well. I solved the zoom in another way: I programmed small quick clicks of the zoom keys when the slider moves in a direction, with sensitivity adjusted to make it spot on. Works just like if you assign the slider to the zoom axis.