Scientist Built a Home Made Magnetic Generator 24 KW Free Home Electricity

[A.S]

It was correct, but I still know nothing about genetics ;) )

 

No sentense in the world could have closed our discussion better then this one.

 

Respect !

[GGTharos]

I think the point of it went well, well over your head - like an ICBM whooshing in space above the north pole :D

 

No sentense in the world could have closed our discussion better then this one.

 

Respect !

[A.S]

:smartass:

 

Arguing with you is like standing infront of a soup-pot toghether in the kitchen.

Both cooks could achieve awesome yamm yamm, but yet they fail bussy arguing about the recipe

[X-man]

You showed me a door, but there was the brick wall of reality behind it.

ROFL!!! :megalol: This comment made my day! :D

 

One cant say Im often in agreement with GG ;) but this is one of those few time when I am.

 

AS, you seem to have little to none understanding of what an proven scientific theory actually is.

 

Cheers

[A.S]

ROFL!!! :megalol: This comment made my day! :D

 

One cant say Im often in agreement with GG ;) but this is one of those few time when I am.

 

AS, you seem to have little to none understanding of what an proven scientific theory actually is.

 

Cheers

 

You know X-man, i dont care about scientists which knowledge ends on borders achieved by others. Those are good for practical use in LABs.

You know in 1910 you wouldnt have get a job if you would come along with the idea to "bend" light. Your boss would have shown you the door as nut-case, yet 9 years later it was proofen.....

It is way to easy to quote established science and sit or hide behind it, in order to "be right".

It does not matter if im stuipid in your eyes or not - those who know me, know im not, therefore.......i wish you also a good realistic day, but be carefull with using phantasie....it could rock your boat to much.

[GGTharos]

It does not matter if im stuipid in your eyes or not - those who know me, know im not, therefore...

 

It doesn't matter if you're stupid or not - what matters is that your argument is based on false premises.

 

You assume that science continues on 'borders' made by others. This is incorrect. This is why things like GR, SR, QM were developed in the first place, instead of just sticking to Newton's laws.

 

This is why today, things like M-Theory is being developed.

 

This false assumptions of yours is exactly what makes you so very, very wrong.

[A.S]

It doesn't matter if you're stupid or not - what matters is that your argument is based on false premises.

 

You assume that science continues on 'borders' made by others. This is incorrect. This is why things like GR, SR, QM were developed in the first place, instead of just sticking to Newton's laws.

 

This is why today, things like M-Theory is being developed.

 

This false assumptions of yours is exactly what makes you so very, very wrong.

 

Dude, you say it for yourself..... first Newton laws, then GR, SR and QM and now M-theory, string theory ..the glorious 11th dimesions which added the missing link etc etc etc....

But did you know that we traveled space with wrong calculations, disoverd not long time ago......a crucial element of science was proofen wrong.....those are models.....theories.....approaches to describe or to capture things going on in nature.....but they are not absolute absolute in every conditions.....every scientist knows that...and yet you resist so hard on things just because you read few lines here and there more then me, maybe not........you take those things as "gods words" and you try to argue with them vs me...where every scientist knows...that some laws apply very practically in certain conditions but fail bigtime in others.....

Due to that fact i keep my mind open and yes i also phantasize in fields, but that what defines discovery....

All you do is saying me ...science did this and that...you dont have to tell me that..i know it myself and can read up myself ....and guess what....i believe such sources more then you, even you just quote them truly ;)...

Thats not the point....you all here think.....AS said 2+2=5 and you all start making a huge protest demo..not realizing for a fractions of a second "what is this guys trying to say..or what way is he thinking".

You defend positions where there is no attack.......what is it? Fear, that someone will destroy your religion? i dont get it...

[X-man]

The thing AS, is that no one in 1910 could prove anything about bending light, so it was just general opinion that one couldn't. Once someone proved it, the discussion was pretty much over.

 

In your case, you're arguing against some of the most fundamental theories in physics regarding energy, which have been proven over and over again.

[X-man]

You keep making analogies to religion, but fail to see that science is the exact opposite. It's open to change and adaptations as long as things are PROVEN, something your pseudo-physics have failed miserably at...

 

 

Whatever point you're trying to make is not going through to me, sorry.

[A.S]

The thing AS, is that no one in 1910 could prove anything about bending light, so it was just general opinion that one couldn't. Once someone proved it, the discussion was pretty much over.

 

In your case, you're arguing against some of the most fundamental theories in physics regarding energy, which have been proven over and over again.

 

Im very very well aware of that fact X-man. I know the laws of thermo-dynamics and many more. Im also aware of specific constants in the nature etc etc........saying....my background is not totally stupid.

 

But still, i ask myself really hard, what makes us so sure, that those LAWS are not only true in regards to our whole observation ..i ask....what if there are things we dont know yet ...what will shake our system? You know what im saying......?

Yes, till noone proofes otherwise, it will remain as it is....but who, or which IDIOT in the world would go out and question things, proofed to be right over generations? OMG :huh: ahaaa :smilewink:

Edited September 4, 2009 by A.S

[A.S]

Im stuipid...but im willing to learn

 

explain me his results

 

http://johnbedini.net/john34/bedinibearden.html

[A.S]

Im stuipid...but im willing to learn

 

explain me his results

 

http://www.searlsolution.com/index.html

[GGTharos]

His results are meaningless until he does the test I proposed ... ie. bring back the x+1 charged batteries, in a manner that is consistent, and repeatable by other scientists - so that it can be verified.

 

It must be just his apparatus with no outside connections, inside a faraday cage, and he is given x charged and y discharged batteries. He must go in there and bring back x+1 charged batteries.

 

This is the only way to prove that he has a unity device, and he may not do it in private.

 

And AS, if we cannot agree on this method, then there really is no point in arguing this ... this is the one method to provide unquestionable evidence to EVERYONE that something interesting is happening - agreed?

Edited September 4, 2009 by GGTharos

[A.S]

Explain me the result of

 

Eugene Podkletnov

 

SCIENTISTS in Finland are about to reveal details of the world's first anti-gravity device. Measuring about 12in across, the device is said to reduce significantly the weight of anything suspended over it.

The claim - which has been rigorously examined by scientists, and is due to appear in a physics journal next month -- could spark a technological revolution. By combatting gravity, the most ubiquitous force in the universe, everything from transport to power generation could be transformed.

The Sunday Telegraph has learned that Nasa, the American space agency, is taking the claims seriously, and is funding research into how the anti- gravity effect could be turned into a means of flight.

The researchers at the Tampere University of Technology in Finland, who discovered the effect, say it could form the heart of a new power source, in which it is used to drive fluids past electricity-generating turbines.

Other uses seem limited only by the imagination: Lifts in buildings could be replaced by devices built into the ground. People wanting to go up would simply activate the anti-gravity device - making themselves weightless - and with a gentle push ascend to the floor they want.

Space-travel would bitcome routine, as all the expense and danger of rocket technology is geared towards combatting the Earth's gravitation pull. By using the devices to raise fluids against gravity, and then conventional gravity to pull them back to earth against electricity-generating turbines, the devices could also revolutionise power generation.

According to Dr Eugene Podkletnov, who led the research, the discovery was accidental. It emerged during routine work on so-called "superconductivity", the ability of some materials to lose their electrical resistance at very low temperatures. The team was carrying out tests on a rapidly spinning disc of superconducting ceramic suspended in the magnetic field of three electric coils, all enclosed in a low-temperature vessel called a cryostat. "One of my friends came in and he was smoking his pipe," Dr Podkletnov said. "He put some smoke over the cryostat and we saw that the smoke was going to the ceiling all the time. It was amazing - we couldn't explain it." Tests showed a small drop in the weight of objects placed over the device, as if it were shielding the object from the effects of gravity - an effect deemed impossible by most scientists. "We thought it might be a mistake," Dr Podkletnov said, "but we have taken every precaution." Yet the bizarre effects persisted. The team found that even the air pressure vertically above the device dropped slightly, with the effect detectable directly above the device on every floor of the laboratory. In recent years, many so-called "anti-gravity" devices have been put forward by both amateur and professional scientists, and all have been scorned by the establishment. What makes this latest claim different is that it has survived intense scrutiny by sceptical, independent experts, and has been accepted for publication by the Journal of Physics - D: Applied Physics, published by Britain's Institute of Physics.

Even so, most scientists will not feel comfortable with the idea of anti-gravity until other teams repeat the experiments. Some scientists suspect the anti-gravity effect is a long-sought side-effect of Einstein's general theory of relativity, by which spinning objects can distort gravity. Until now it was thought the effect would be far too small to measure in the laboratory. However, Dr Ning Li, a senior research scientist at the University of Alabama, said that the atoms inside superconductors may magnify the effect enormously. Her research is funded by Nasa's Marshall Space Flight centre at Huntsville, Alabama, and Whitt Brantley, the chief of Advanced Concepts Office there, said: "We're taking a look at it, because if we don't, we'll never know." The Finnish team is already expanding its programme, to see if it can amplify the anti-gravity effect. In its latest experiments, the team has measured a two per cent drop in the weight of objects suspended over the device - and double that if one device is suspended over another. If the team can increase the effect substantially, the commercial implications are enormous.

 

More you can find by yourself, but last thing i know is that is went "duck" working for NASA now...if that is correct what i read

I saw an LaB test with him on vid, but cant find it......sorry

Edited September 4, 2009 by A.S

[A.S]

His results are meaningless until he does the test I proposed ... ie. bring back the x+1 charged batteries, in a manner that is consistent, and repeatable by other scientists - so that it can be verified.

 

It must be just his apparatus with no outside connections, inside a faraday cage, and he is given x charged and y discharged batteries. He must go in there and bring back x+1 charged batteries.

 

This is the only way to prove that he has a unity device, and he may not do it in private.

 

Ok i see you havent bothered to read or to research fully

[GGTharos]

Look, you're now throwing anti-gravity BS at me :P Can you stick to one bloody thing already? Is this too much to ask of you, seriously?

 

AFAIK there's not enough known about gravity right now to decide on the spot if anti-gravity is possible or not, anyway - currently it is regarded as highly unlikely.

Edited September 4, 2009 by GGTharos

[A.S]

Look, you're now throwing anti-gravity BS at me :P Can you stick to one bloody thing already? Is this too much to ask of you, seriously?

 

AFAIK there's not enough known about gravity right now to decide on the spot if anti-gravity is possible or not, anyway.

 

there is no such thing as anti-gravity, but you might be able to achieve a balanced system in terms of equal forces. Hallo? thought you study QM?

PS: furthermore if you would mind reading more into searls work, you would have realized that gravity effects where side-effects of his work, but the main application was the achievement of "overunity" ..well bad explained...but look again, then you know

[X-man]

For a theory to be accepted, it should be repeatable by others who are completely objective. These links that you gave us point only to "lonewolfs" (so to speak) that sits in their own laboratory and does some funny things. Cold fusion anyone?? ;)

[A.S]

For a theory to be accepted, it should be repeatable by others who are completely objective. This links that you gave us point only to "lonewolfs" (so to speak) that sits in their own laboratory and does some funny things. Cold fusion anyone?? ;)

 

wich one? bedini, searl or potletknow....is all cases i can give you cases

 

what instution (university, science lab etc etc) at which time re-made same experiment with results.

 

You wanna?

[GGTharos]

AS, I don't know if you missed it, but the whole conversation has been about free energy - and thus - over-unity devices.

 

It wasn't about getting power from the wind, thus getting 'free' as in don't have topay for it - energy, it was about tapping into an infinite supply of energy that never runs out.

 

If you have been trying to discuss something else, then I fear we aren't on the same page.

 

there is no such thing as anti-gravity, but you might be able to achieve a balanced system in terms of equal forces. Hallo? thought you study QM?

PS: furthermore if you would mind reading more into searls work, you would have realized that gravity effects where side-effects of his work, but the main application was the achievement of "overunity" ..well bad explained...but look again, then you know

[GGTharos]

We all wanna.

 

You wanna?

[A.S]

AS, I don't know if you missed it, but the whole conversation has been about free energy - and thus - over-unity devices.

 

It wasn't about getting power from the wind, thus getting 'free' as in don't have topay for it - energy, it was about tapping into an infinite supply of energy that never runs out.

 

If you have been trying to discuss something else, then I fear we aren't on the same page.

 

Thats exactly what those guys achieved - if you dig deeper you will see why. Ok i dont call it "free" energy....because thats a delicate use of word here...it cant be free...it must come from somewhere....but that is what made those experiments mind-buggling in first case.

There are parralles to call it "vaccum energy" or ZPE or magnetic soup..whatever....fact is.....the results they achieve make NO sense...in no way .....not in any way we know....but YET it works..

 

exaclty that is why i said........hold on a second...we can not explain it, so how we should proof it ? :huh: ...but the results are infront of our noses.

[A.S]

We all wanna.

 

Podkletnov-Experiment ( in his case. sorry its german but understandable)

 

for the others i will have to sum up ...takes a while

 

[GGTharos]

Okay, so you're saying they got extra energy from -somewhere-, but in turn that energy is no longer available in this somewhere ... sure. Okay.

 

As I said, I presented to you a method of testing for this. Unless I really missed something, none of these experiments have been done in this manner.

 

If it has, then by all means I defer to your greater knowledge in this field - point me to where it has been done in the manner I described. This method is necessary - maybe not to you, but it is for me :)

 

exaclty that is why i said........hold on a second...we can not explain it, so how we should proof it ? :huh: ...but the results are infront of our noses.

[A.S]

http://www.icehouse.net/john1/intro.html

 

This pretty much sums it up, and confirms Kashes explanations of Dark-, Anti- and Matter , and "Potentials or Loads"....not fully, but comes close to his extractions.