Need Help Modifying 1.1 meinit file!!

[SilentEagle]

I am trying to get a start on our thunderbirds mod but I have run into a BIG problem...

 

First of all, to make all of our skins work in lomac for all 8 planes - we have to modify the meinit file color schemes section for the F-15C. Here is the problem>>>

 

I have taken screenshots to show the problem in game.

 

I have already copied the F-16 models over the F-15.

 

I have already copied the EXACT information from the F-16C color schemes section to the F-15C color schemes section.

 

Here is teh problem....The skins WORK FINE on the F-16C in game!! BUT NOT THE F-15C!!!

 

 

 

Remember, both of these aircraft have the exact same information for the skins they use...

 

SO my question is>>> Why aren't the skins working on the F-15C like they are on the F-16C

 

I know this is not my problem because I did this exact thing on the 1.02 thunderbirds mod!!

[TekaTeka]

I have already copied the EXACT information from the F-16C color schemes section to the F-15C color schemes section.

I guess you don't have to do that.

Try to put the original F-15C color schemes back.

 

I just replaced the F-15 model and the F-16 model without meinit editing, then I could choose the F-15C color scheme.

Isn't this what you want?

 

[SilentEagle]

i know about this but those skin names are for the F-15...if you notice some of those skins are missing...and even then they aren't the right skins in teh cdds taht i am trying to overwrite

[TekaTeka]

How about this?

I can change the order of the appearance, too.

 

 

 

EDIT: These were some experiments. Please ignore.

[TekaTeka]

I looked into the meinit file further and found there were some differences of the format between 1.1 and 1.02.

It looks like you have to use F-15's CLSID to define F-15's color schemes.

So leave the original CLSIDs and change the Names only.

 

Also there are some changes in the F-16's textures. There are some new replacement textures in a new cdds file.

LoMan can not put the textures in the new cdds because it replaces the old textures in the old cdds.

The only option you have now is extract the textures to BMPs and put in TempTextures folder.(Uncheck the cdds option in LoMan when you install.)

 

I found your site and tried the thunderbirds' skin in 1.1.

Well, it worked perfect! I saw all the 8 skins as the color schemes of F-15C and F-16C.

 

Did this help you? I hope so.

 

Anyway, I am looking forward your new 1.1 movies especially with new smokes.

[SilentEagle]

I looked into the meinit file further and found there were some differences of the format between 1.1 and 1.02.

It looks like you have to use F-15's CLSID to define F-15's color schemes.

So leave the original CLSIDs and change the Names only.

 

Also there are some changes in the F-16's textures. There are some new replacement textures in a new cdds file.

LoMan can not put the textures in the new cdds because it replaces the old textures in the old cdds.

The only option you have now is extract the textures to BMPs and put in TempTextures folder.(Uncheck the cdds option in LoMan when you install.)

 

I found your site and tried the thunderbirds' skin in 1.1.

Well, it worked perfect! I saw all the 8 skins as the color schemes of F-15C and F-16C.

 

Did this help you? I hope so.

 

Anyway, I am looking forward your new 1.1 movies especially with new smokes.

 

THe reason it worked is because it replaced teh entire meinit file but i do not want to do taht....i want to edit the new 1.1. meinit file...becuase you will be missing so much new features out of the new version...so i am still lost on how to do the skins though...i know now that i just rename the skins in game but what do i save the skin names as in teh temp texutures for now?

[TekaTeka]

Then my explanation did not make sense. My English is so bad...

 

No, I did not replace the entire meinit file.

What I did are below:

 

1. I copied the F-16 models over the F-15.

 

2. I installed your Thunderbirds skins with unchecked cdds option.(LoMan2.1)

(The textures are in the 'TempTextures' folder.)

 

3. I edited only the color scheme Names of F-15C in the 1.1 meinit file.

 

<ColorSchemes>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{A7C18417-3EA1-4B2B-B2FE-2D68E35ACCD1}" ID="9" Name="IDF/AF F15 Standard"/>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{2e57406b-0ad2-4531-8dc4-e9ba59be6167}" ID="0" Name="Thunderbird 1"/>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{3506c4fe-4c3a-4d79-b232-fd000ec65b9c}" ID="1" Name="Thunderbird 2"/>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{abd15535-a4ba-451a-8583-6d796c35747b}" ID="2" Name="Thunderbird 3"/>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{8238d333-c109-43dc-8cae-74e92799270a}" ID="3" Name="Thunderbird 4"/>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{a4492e44-06bd-4ed8-b744-f5fd4be4b2c8}" ID="4" Name="Thunderbird 5"/>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{c0ee4ef9-9328-4a38-871e-1dfbd1efd41f}" ID="5" Name="Thunderbird 6"/>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{1a27ede8-236a-42c6-b7c5-2f2f2620fd26}" ID="6" Name="Thunderbird 7"/>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{2a31c5f8-df20-4af3-bd7d-ccbb8a64b5cf}" ID="7" Name="Thunderbird 8"/>

<ColorScheme CLSID="{8e75a77d-c944-4f43-9441-787e03d6b68f}" ID="8" Name="54th FS (AK) AFB Elmendorf (early)"/>

</ColorSchemes>

4. I went down to 'USA' in the </Country> section, and deleted one last line of the F-15's color schemes. The deleted line was:

<ColorScheme CLSID="{8e75a77d-c944-4f43-9441-787e03d6b68f}">54th FS (AK) AFB Elmendorf (early)</ColorScheme>

That's it. Try these by yourself.

Did I make myself clear now?

[SilentEagle]

I am only able to get 5 of the skins to work using that method!!!! the other 3 skins are blank!!

 

I am trying to use the skins that are used on the F-16C in the mission editor....go to that plane in the mission editor!! They have enough skins to overwrite to use all 8 or our skins...which is how we did it in 1.02...but that is what i am trying to say....i haven't been able to use those F-16C skins from that plane on the F-16 model for the F-15

 

AND If nothing else....you can always send me your meinit file that you have edited and i can take it from there!

[Alfa]

Question,

 

Why do you want to mess with the F-15 entry at all?

 

If you just want to be able to fly the F-16C with your squadron skins, all you need to do is to give these names of original F-16C skins, put them into the TempTextures folder.....and then make the F-16C flyable :)

 

- JJ.

[SilentEagle]

OMG did you even read what i said...there are only 5 skins....we need all 8!!!!!

 

or else i screwed up somewhere

[TekaTeka]

I am only able to get 5 of the skins to work using that method!!!! the other 3 skins are blank!!

Hmmmmm That's strange.

 

Please make sure you uncheck the option "When possible, always install textures in CDDS files" in LoMan when you install the skins. And see if those skins are placed in TempTextures folder.

This is the only reason I can think of.

 

AND If nothing else....you can always send me your meinit file that you have edited and i can take it from there!

I attatched my meinit. Unzip to use. (I also made the F-16C flyable.)

 

If you just want to be able to fly the F-16C with your squadron skins, all you need to do is to give these names of original F-16C skins, put them into the TempTextures folder.....and then make the F-16C flyable

With your method, the cockpit will be Su-27 and the flight model will be unrealistic. That is not what SilentEagle wants, I guess.

[SilentEagle]

This gives me the exact same problem!!

 

I have all of my textures in the temp textures with all the same names as our last mod...so why am i not seeing the skins?? Even when i tried to rename the skins in the temp textures to match the ones in the cdds file...it still showed this picture here...

 

[Alfa]

OMG did you even read what i said...there are only 5 skins....we need all 8!!!!!

 

OMG did you even understand a word of what I said?

 

- JJ.

[Alfa]

With your method, the cockpit will be Su-27 and the flight model will be unrealistic. That is not what SilentEagle wants, I guess.

 

With the file swapping method, the F-16 will have the F-15 cockpit and flight model, both unrealistic for the F-16 ;)

 

....and the F-15C entry will dissapear in the process.

 

- JJ.

[TekaTeka]

This gives me the exact same problem!!

Did you use F-16C models of 1.1 to replace the F-15C models?

Do not use models of 1.02.

[Alfa]

Did you use F-16C models of 1.1 to replace the F-15C models?

Do not use models of 1.02.

 

It doesnt matter - the F-16C model is the same in 1.1 as it was in 1.02.

 

So maybe SilentEagle should try using this instead of the F-16A model ;)

 

- JJ.

[TekaTeka]

It doesnt matter - the F-16C model is the same in 1.1 as it was in 1.02.

Well, you are right. I confirmed it.

 

So maybe SilentEagle should try using this instead of the F-16A model

Please do not kid around. He is serious.

[Alfa]

Please do not kid around. He is serious.

 

But not very polite.

 

I am not kidding around - the F-16C model supports 8 skins, the F-16A model only 5......get it?

 

- JJ.

[TekaTeka]

I am not kidding around - the F-16C model supports 8 skins, the F-16A model only 5......get it?

You must be right!!

 

He must have replaced wrong files. I replaced f-15.cmd by F-16A.cmd and had the same problem he has now.

 

SilentEagle, you have to replace f-15.cmd by F-16.cmd, not by F-16A.cmd.

Replaced f-15.cmd should be 2,049KB.

 

I hope this solves the problem.

[SilentEagle]

You must be right!!

 

He must have replaced wrong files. I replaced f-15.cmd by F-16A.cmd and had the same problem he has now.

 

SilentEagle, you have to replace f-15.cmd by F-16.cmd, not by F-16A.cmd.

Replaced f-15.cmd should be 2,049KB.

 

I hope this solves the problem.

 

OMG THANKS!!!! i was using the models from 1.02!!!

[SilentEagle]

AND I CAN FINALLY SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!

 

THANKS SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP GUYS!!! I probably would have never figured out that the models from version to version were slightly different in the skins they used...

 

[Guest ruggbutt]

Glad to see you got it working. Now when do we get to see some more of that Sierra Hotel flying? Do you have another video coming out soon?

[TekaTeka]

AND I CAN FINALLY SLEEP!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulation!!! SilentEagle!

 

Now, you owe me one good movie. Release one soon!! (I'm kidding. )

 

Well, I should have noticed it from the beginning because the picture from your very first post was definitely the A model. How blind we were!!

You could not notice it without me, I could not notice it without Alfa and Alfa probably could not figure out by himself either.

ONLY GOOD COMMUNITY COULD SOLVE IT!

 

Long live LOMAC!!

[Merlin]

good work guys